Seems we have an answer on the 'lore' vs. 'new player friendly' NIN option ^^

[Fyrebrand]

"Rogue level 30 / ??? level 15"

They're not exactly throwing us a bone here, are they? >< lol

Seriously. I really wish they'd let us know what other thing we have to grind to 15 in preparation for Ninja. A smart bet might be Pugilist, but I could also imagine something like Arcanist or Thaumaturge for those semi-magical mudra skills.

They even mention "the vital energies of the land, the air, and living beings," which sounds like Conjurer.

[Souljacker]

I'm actually kind of disappointed on a number of fronts.

Firstly, because they had an opportunity to design and implement two completely unique, standalone jobs and they didn't.
Second, I don't believe that they should have introduced someone so disconnected from existing lore as the ninja trainer.

In fact, the only thing I'm grateful for is that it's likely we won't see much discussion on "rouges" since it's only a stepping stone to ninja anyway.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Seriously. I really wish they'd let us know what other thing we have to grind to 15 in preparation for Ninja. A smart bet might be Pugilist, but I could also imagine something like Arcanist or Thaumaturge for those semi-magical mudra skills.

The even mention "the vital energies of the land, the air, and living beings," which sounds like Conjurer.

Square never reveals everything until the day the content is ready. They don't like having the player base trying to prepare in advance for an easier time.

[Lord_Zlatan]

did anyone honestly believe it would be gated behind the main scenario? That is ridiculous to think so.

[ChaozK]

"Rogue level 30 / ??? level 15"

They're not exactly throwing us a bone here, are they? >< lol

They probably dont want people to level the required class in advance so there is at least some form of gating in place, even if its only for a portion of the player base that doesnt have all classes at 50.

Funnily though, on the german page you can read the names of the quests that are ???

[Rikkustrife]

The other classes did not have 2 level 15 quests, so I wonder what the second is for. Same for jobs and level 35 quests.

[Dyne_Fellpool]

I appreciate the consistency with how other jobs work. Anything else would upset my ocd. >.>

[Tam_Hawkins]

The other classes did not have 2 level 15 quests, so I wonder what the second is for. Same for jobs and level 35 quests.

Didn't they say something about class armor? There are two Lvl15 and lvl 30 quests which could give this armor (like job-quests: lvl 15: shoes, gloves, legs and head; lvl30: Body). I could be totally wrong with that of course.

*Edit: just saw that the ninja has 2 lvl 30 (get the Job and get the skill?), 2 lvl35(?) and 2lvl 45(skill and Equipment) quests

[Bixby]

The other classes did not have 2 level 15 quests, so I wonder what the second is for. Same for jobs and level 35 quests.

I don't know but "Rogue level 10" is a really stupid name for a level 15 quest.

(And this post will look just as stupid if/when they fix the current text on the lodestone.)

[Rbstr]

Second, I don't believe that they should have introduced someone so disconnected from existing lore as the ninja trainer.

0_o Curious George and the BLM trainers and the two Padjal kiddos are so very deeply connected to the lore?
Part of the point is that Ninjas don't even come from Eorzea in the first place.