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  1. #1061
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    EmeraldAres's Avatar
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    Emerald Ares
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I had a minor one early this morning, at a time that I probably should have been sleeping.

    I queue up for High Level Roulette to grab some myth, a BLM friend sees me queued and wants to come along. So I invite him and we go in together. We get a paladin tank who is new to Wanderer's Palace (WP) and a decked out dragoon. WP can be kind of rough for a tank that has never done it before because there are a number of "tricks" that people use to counter the mechanics of the duty and speed it up, many of them leftover from the days when WP was spammed constantly. I warn the tank about the stalkers and explain that fast pulling mitigates this, and he kind of learns as he sees the group rushing forward and picks things up. We aoe a few times, and get to the first boss before the stalker even knew what the heck was going on. So far so good.

    But there's a little problem: even after this, the drg keeps pulling things for the tank. Let me preface this by saying that I am no stranger to speed runs. When Brayflox was the big deal before hunts, I quickly learned how to optimize my use of holy, cooldowns, and cure spells to survive all but the stupidest of advances. So none of this was really killing us. But I found it kind of annoying because I'm a firm believer in the tank controlling the pace of the dungeon, even if it takes a little extra time. The guy was new, besides. Anyway, we run around like headless chickens a bit when the stalkers come out, except for my BLM friend who is standing ahead of us and furrowing his brow because we're a bunch of idiots. We bring in the enemies we picked up, aoe them down, and proceed to the flan boss. Goes down easily.

    On the last corridor, the drg really overdid it. After the tank pulled (NOT before), he tells him to take it to the end and charges forward. We were trying to aoe some mobs because the tank wasn't expecting this, but the tank is a good sport and follows. I follow too, along with my BLM friend, and half the mobs are hitting me because I did some healing and holy before we started moving. At the locked doors, things go crazy. Stuff is hitting my BLM friend as we aoe, and I save him when he's like a sliver from dying. He had maybe a couple hundred HP at most. Then it's my turn: almost no HP. Cure myself right before I bite the dust, survive, and we take everything down. Proceed to the boss room. Paladin gets in cutscene, drg pulls. I follow, not really knowing why he's in so much of a dang rush. Paladin gets in, but my BLM friend (perhaps rightfully) stands outside because he's tired of the drg's behavior. We clear it pretty quick because I'm used to taking down adds a certain way and burning the boss in cleric stance at the right time, but I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth. The paladin was a good sport and an excellent tank for being there for the first time, and I tell him that while WP is usually pretty quick that the drg had a few screws loose. We go our separate ways, and that's the end of it.

    I don't usually have stories to report here because I rarely consider it a "horror story" unless someone personally blames me. I see a lot of mistakes and deaths in the content that I run regularly, but they rarely result in a wipe and I consider it par for course when people are trying to learn. But I have to imagine that this run wasn't very pleasant for the tank. Honestly, I thought I was going to have a heart attack near the end when I had to keep pulling people back from the brink of death, but that's just the way it goes sometimes. I think other than misplaced blame, the biggest problem I have as a healer is with people who feel the need to go way too fast, especially with new players in the party. An example of this was the warrior from my other Pharos horror story at the end of page 50 in January. While I've adjusted and found ways to usually mitigate the damage that unreasonably reckless people cause, it would be better if people would be a little more cautious around new players. What would have happened if the healer in this run had been new? There probably would have been wipes and the drg would have thrown a fit, I imagine. All because he wasn't considering the circumstances of the tank in his group.
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    Last edited by EmeraldAres; 10-05-2014 at 08:19 PM.

  2. #1062
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I decided to give Garuda EX a shot after a long time of avoidance. Last attempt was a few months ago.
    We get to the first instance where Chirada and Superna decide to show up. I had just medica'd (it had been a bad timing moment) after a few of us had been slapped around several time from the close quarters with Garuda during the windstorm when there's very little space. No one came to pick Chirada up off me and she had her way with me -_-; Garuda decided I looked like awesome fun, on top of that. That didn't end well, very quickly.
    In the chaos, all the rocks go down, and boom. Wiped.
    The other WHM and I seemed to silently agree with each other to hold off on medicas. The only things I had casted on either tank were regen. Finally, Chirada on one tank, Garuda and Suparna on the other, on opposite ends.
    I didn't see the other tank getting hit for anything, which was odd, but was focusing on the tank with Chirada who was.
    SUDDENLY.
    A wild Garuda appears.
    Garuda uses 'KILLSASEAL'.
    It's super effective!
    -_-
    We wipe. Tank and a DPS rage quit after what what I think was a finger pointing at us healers for putting out too much aggro.
    First off - it was only regen. I hadn't even Divine'd it. I wasn't even healing the other tank holding Suparna/Garuda (as his health bar didn't warrant it as much as Chirada's tank and don't have the foggiest reason as to why). I was a fair distance from said tank with Garuda and Suparna, so I wasn't watching what the other tank was doing, only the HP bars. Garuda came up from behind me out of nowhere. It wasn't from the pre-casted regen, as there had been some time that had passed before she decided to dance.
    But they wanted to blame the healers? Blame your hate cycle if you lose out to regen >.<
    Even if Suparna/Chirada/Garuda are linked in hate building, I've done far harder healing in the other attempts without getting targeted out the wazoo and grabbing hate so damn easily.

    I guess it was balance for the super awesome tank I had earlier in the afternoon, in SV HM.
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    Last edited by Saseal; 10-06-2014 at 01:32 PM.

  3. #1063
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    A short one, but one that makes the stereotype of "DPS are dumb" more true. Did a run in Tam Tara Hard, tank was telling the group to not attack adds on the first boss.
    I've had this same thing happen with a Dragoon... no matter how much we told them not to kill the adds... all they did was throw out smileys and continue their AoEs. After the 4th wipe, the tank refused to budge after that.

    FC member and I ended up just having to leave as they were both being stubborn and derpy after we stood around for 10-15 mins (tank was trying to wait out the DRG in hopes he'd leave).
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  4. #1064
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    I've had this same thing happen with a Dragoon... no matter how much we told them not to kill the adds... all they did was throw out smileys and continue their AoEs. After the 4th wipe, the tank refused to budge after that.

    FC member and I ended up just having to leave as they were both being stubborn and derpy after we stood around for 10-15 mins (tank was trying to wait out the DRG in hopes he'd leave).
    Gah I hate those types of people that try to spite you just so that your own run is ruined. From the sound of it, it seems your idiots were actually trolls if they were throwing emoticons in response to your commands.
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  5. #1065
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    Miya_Carbuncle's Avatar
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    Miya Carbuncle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    So I decided to try healing instead of tanking after finally coming back to the game today. I spent my entire day leveling up conj through dungeons (always picking the highest level I can do) and most runs went rather smooth. But in one dungeon run at Thousand Maws, I came across a gladiator tank that not only didn't use flash at all, but completely ignored any mobs she wasn't attacking. So any mobs she wasn't attacking, they were on me all of the time and it was incredibly hard to heal when my cures were getting interrupted left and right. Not to mention she was tanking in lvl 15 and lower gear.

    I constantly typed in chat for her to use flash or at least try to get the other mobs, but it was completely ignored. I even started spamming in caps hoping she'd notice. Eventually we kicked her and replaced her with a good tank who was fun to talk to though. c: The DPS were also very nice to me and we had a silly conversation while waiting for the new tank.
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  6. #1066
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Loaded into an in progress for Ifrit HM, instance was bugged out and we could only see 4 members in the party even if there was more, ofc the tanks weren't in mine, every healers horror story...


    Also had a tank in WP, under geared with 5k hp that thought speed run meant get every single monster to the first boss door, had to heal him at the beetles because he had 2k hp left by then so I gain agro, kept following him, he bit the dust and I got zerg rushed to death. Ofc after the wipe and following wipe were the DPS (rightfully so didn't follow the tank this time, I did, dunno why) the usual 'pleasantries' followed such as "omfg noob" etc.
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    Last edited by Ignnis; 10-07-2014 at 12:30 AM.

  7. #1067
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Gah I hate those types of people that try to spite you just so that your own run is ruined. From the sound of it, it seems your idiots were actually trolls if they were throwing emoticons in response to your commands.
    Yeah, the dragoon, I believe, was trolling. The tank was just downright stubborn. "I'm not moving from this spot (the respawn) until that dragoon leaves!", was the tank's jist.
    My initial thought was maybe the Dragoon didn't speak English very well - but it's very difficult to tell if they just " " a million times, with a few scattered "we go?", etc. Hey, it's possible it could have been both >_> (Or a native speaker posing as ESL)
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  8. #1068
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    Loaded into an in progress for Ifrit HM, instance was bugged out and we could only see 4 members in the party even if there was more, ofc the tanks weren't in mine, every healers horror story...
    (Image snipped)
    Ohshit o.o;;
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  9. #1069
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    Bluehaired Bigdude
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I've been loaded into a few trials where you load into a battle thats halfway done. Titan Ex with 60% health and i get shafted into loading into a stack of Weight of the Lands.
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  10. #1070
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    I think this is just a general and all to common horror story now that nexus farming has become the thing to do.........its the bard (always a bard with me) that decided to pull the primal as soon as the barrier goes down. Cant wait for swiftcast>protect can we? Well i cant be bothered healing you throughtout this trial then . Had one do this in Titan the other day in DF, they managed to kill 2 people from the outset O.o. Wait 5 secs at start for the healer to at least get protect out, and you will have a nice happy healer and a nice smooth run.
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