Please re-consider vote kick.

[BreathlessTao]

Just had a very obnoxious "healer" (quotes, because she seemed to be thinking she was tank) in the duty roulette. It came to the point where she was voted to be kicked - twice. And after both, she popped right back in (not only with a condescending and downright rude tone to boot, but even refusing to do any sort of healing for the rest of the dungeon), effectively rendering the vote dismiss function useless.

Players who quit a duty because it doesn't fit them (one way or another) are penalised with a 30min lockout from registering for duty again. Players who initiate a vote dismiss are penalised with a 4hr lockout from initiating another one again. Bearing this in mind, I fail to see why those who are kicked out can queue again right after being dismissed and are not punished in any sort of way - if anyone, it should be them to get a lockout a least, because they've obviously done something that caused a conflict big enough for an agreement that they shouldn't be playing. And not only are they not penalised, but they can pop right back in the same duty they have been kicked from and still get the tomes and possibly even the loot for the kills, making their "efforts" effectively rewarded.

Please consider this and make appropriate adjustments.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

You have to consider that there are cases where vote kick was abused. Not in this instance. But maybe what should happen is that the person being voted out should be unable to click the "in progress" box for a half hour, but can still join fresh runs.

[Ignnis]

Or how about the person kicked cannot join the same group via DF even with join in progress checked? 4 hours is harsh and people abuse the system every day aka ST.

[Laerune]

Two things that should be added to the vote-kick option:

1. Players who get kicked, can not re-join the same group via Duty Finder. I reckon we can all agree that we would wait few minutes, instead of having the same idiot back in the group.

2. If someone is being kicked and he or she has someone in the group who joined via a party at the start of the dungeon, these players should not get the option to vote Yes or No. An example, dps and healer joined toghter via DF. The DPS is horrible, so the rest of the group decides to kick him out, because the healer is a friend, guildie etc of the dps, he or she decides to block the kick by voting No. Just like how people who join toghter can not give each other commendation, this should also be added to the kick option.

[Lithera]

1. would obviously be brilliant...other than situations were you're vote kicked during a DC and try to get back into the group (I've been in this situation and "in-progressed" myself back into the group that kicked me for DCing)
2. However can present a problem with overwhelming majorities (3/4 premade or 6-7/8 premade). The extreme case is 3/4 premade or 7/8 premade. You're saying that 1 random should be able to guaranteed vote kick a member of the 7-man partial? The result of that would then be the remaining 6 vote kicking the single and trying to get their friend back in in-progress assuming #1 wasn't implemented yet. Majority always rules. If the player's partymates are fine with his behavior and vote No it's up to the single person to decide if they want to stick around or not.

[Adler]

I would just had left the instance. I think there is no penalty for leaving after someone get kicked.

[BreathlessTao]

How about the person kicked can't join in-progress for a while and can't join as the same role they'd gotten kicked out as?
Sorry to those who are voted off in a legit abuse case - do report the players involved (that "character name of the player who initiated the vote kick" thing is kinda funny since as far as I know the feature is anonymous), maybe even the whole party - not as actual perpetrators, but as people who have been there. It's easy to look up which server they are on, too.

However, I personally think that their grief is outweighed by entire parties being held hostage; it just happened to me again today. Guy sat down and went literally "it's either you kick me or I afk while you get me the exp". He refused to just quit on his own, and all three of us refused to use the vote dismiss as his personal get-out-of-lockout-for-free feature (whoever initiates one that gets through, can't do again for four hours, mind you), since nobody initiated a vote; all three of us also refused to go on, just sitting down next to him and staring at him. While an apparent agreement on our side, this kind of behaviour on his part is just not tolerable. So, I'm still saying vote-kicked people should get at least the same 30min DF lockout as those who up and leave.

[Coldheart]

In my humble opinion, if you was expelled from a party you must received a penalty. In the current system people ask to be kicked to avoid time lockout instead just leaving the dungeon. This doesn't make much sense.

But you must prevent abuse of kick option, because a good player could be kick without reason.

So, my sugestion is a variable time lockout based on player commendation. For exemple: time lockout (minutes) = number of player commendations - number of times kicked.

To prevent kick abuse, the players who vote to dismiss a player would face a time lockout for the next dungeon. For exemple: time lockout (minutes) = number of player commendations - number of votos to kick a player.

With this system, good players will not suffer penalties for kick abuse, but bad players will face a penalty and the players will think twice to kick someone without a good reason.

[Lithera]

With a tank class leveled I can inflate my Comms VERY easily and to be honest I doubt there's anyone who has even close to as many kicks as comms unless they're a fresh player.

[Nyalia]

If the person joined after being kicked, you could likely report them for harassment. Doubt any action would be taken, but maybe the GMs would at least say something to the person. You never know...