Can you please Ease Up on Atma now?

[Grisha]

I would like them to ease up on Atma, too - at least make them drop less random. I am farming them with a friend of mine and we had our first nasty RNG-encounter with the 2nd Atma we are at. We were doing exactly the same FATEs ate the same time together. Result: I am at 5 Atmas of the Scorpion, he still got none. My first 3 I got in 10 minutes after starting farming in the region. So... well... he is frustrated and I got Atmas that I won't use. I think that is bad design and should be thought about by the devs. Maybe introduce a token system or something, so it is less subject to RNG.

[Marionette]

Listen - everyone complaining about how long atma grinding takes might as well give up on the Zodiac quest. As soon as you finish atma, you are entering animus territory. 9 books, 13,500 myth. The myth, believe it or not, is the easy part. Each book has the following:

*snip*

If you think atma takes too much "time" - you should probably do yourself a favor and ignore the questline completely.

The major difference here though is that it's guaranteed progression. Completed that fate? Awesome, ticked off the list. Beaten that book? Sweet, +1/2 to that stat. While atma is one thing only "Do fate for the low chance of something maybe dropping." It's nice when it drops, but there is no indication of when that is.

[Dashuto]

"There's nothing wrong with the system! People just whine about it forever and ever and ever because.... they like whining! Nothing is wrong!"


Pretty much nothing else has the lasting-hatred-power of this specific flavor of content. Not even housing has kept people mad as long as Fate-Stage relic.

Even people past it despise it.

People with Alts extra despise it.

Everyone admits they'd be okay with doing even 20, some even 50 fates if it just had a meter instead of RNG.

[Granyala]

Its sad seeing so many people insisting that this grind is "hard".

The only hard part is dealing with your own frustration and pushing onward.
A thoroughly misplaced exercise in a video game we play for fun.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

THERE IS NO DIFFICULTY.
its neither easy, nor is it hard.

You don't get it or not get it because you did/did not do something special to the cause.

It is RNG,
A crappy 1% rate RNG - that causes people like me to get it in a few fates, and people like Kusari-chan to not get it in several hundred.

ERADICATE THIS NOTION OF DIFFICULTY FROM YOUR MIND.

Some people just don't get it, so heres a requote.

[Kaelah]

When I said relic weapons are meant to be hard to get, I meant just that. Not that atma are hard. I also said I'm glad it takes some time. Like the atma take time. Nothing about grinding low level FATEs is hard. @_@ Poor choice of words ok lol.

[maxthunder1]

[QUOTE=Granyala;2467323] snip

As I said i dont have an issue with it, like other player, 2nd yes thats possible but the odd of that happening are I would think high, either way leave it as it is, if you want the relic do it, if you dont than dont. there is no need to change the current system just because you or who every dosent like it.

Actually sure change it with following requirementys 200 fates per atma with a gold rating and players must complete the fate and not leave, problem solved.

[Yukariko]

The sticking problem with atma is that you are putting your progress 100% in the hands of the RNG system. there is no other contributing factor.

This, by the sheer number of on going complaint threads should at least say somethign to the comminity and to SE that many don;t like putting their progress completely in the hands of "luck".

I don't think it's even about the time consuming nature of atma griding, it's about seeing the end goal. I reckon in many player's minds who are struggling to obtain them, that each time an atma doesn't drop, the thought enters their heads that "it will never drop" "this could take me months" and other negetive thoughts. This can be extremely demolising to a player.

*I speak from my own experience.

[maxthunder1]

"There's nothing wrong with the system! People just whine about it forever and ever and ever because.... they like whining! Nothing is wrong!"


Pretty much nothing else has the lasting-hatred-power of this specific flavor of content. Not even housing has kept people mad as long as Fate-Stage relic.

Even people past it despise it.

People with Alts extra despise it.

Everyone admits they'd be okay with doing even 20, some even 50 fates if it just had a meter instead of RNG.

Im sorry 20 or 50 oh no thats too little, you want it you earn heres my example: 200 fates per atma, need a gold rating and must complete each fate and not leave early, if you leave early or the fate area you lose your credit.

[EllPii]

People that don't want to deal with rng shouldn't meld Novus either.