OFFICIAL Eorzea's Next Top Model Discussion Thread

[Mugiawara]

I remember watching The Next Top Model...
and I remember even if the model has a pretty face, she can't be just that. I remember even a "plain Jane" won one of the competition's.
I believe models has to have really unique posing and have a story to them or just being something different!
I think Yunie does an excellent job with her poses and have lots of stories going on with them.
People can't be TOO serious with the modeling stuff here in the game...there's limited amount of things you can do on here so I can imagine
it being really really hard to take the perfect photo.
There are tons and tons of different types of models in the world.
From sexy to cute to weird! Tins just made me think of Covergirl in this round! XDD
But as I said before, I really like pictures that makes me think of a story or something or references!
[Like Kurri and the Titanic, now that was very creative.]

[YunieAura]

What I've been wondering about is how some of the competitors have been framing their shots so well, having their characters off-center most of the time. Is it that there's another character always taking the shots, or is there some other way, besides cropping the image, to achieve this effect?

We're allowed a buddy to take our photos~!
Also, using lock-on on a target in the distance helps off center your character too!

[Parodine]

What I've been wondering about is how some of the competitors have been framing their shots so well, having their characters off-center most of the time. Is it that there's another character always taking the shots, or is there some other way, besides cropping the image, to achieve this effect?

Echoed to what Yunie said, but there was a tip early on this thread that showed how. On computer, I can hit F5 I think and have it lock on to a target, from there, that target becomes the center and I can move my character camera in almost any direction around.

I particularly like using the sun minion because I can position it in a particular spot, lock-on, and get in position since it's stationary. It's great fun.

I loved Maxwell's picture because I felt like he went a step further and incorporated himself into the story. He could have easily just done a /pose while standing there with the wolves. Instead he went a step further and aggro-ed them so he'd have a really interesting shot to take.

I appreciate this as well! I died twice during that photo shoot cause I was silly enough to use the lvl 46 wolves and I couldn't see my HP bar with scroll-lock on >_>; I think, aside from the thunder shoot, it's probably my favorite shot so far even if it wasn't super model-esque. Gotta work with ya got! And I don't have abs, so that numbers things that I can work with down to adorable and cute lol

[Aelinau]

People have to realize everyone has a different idea of how a modeling shot..."SS" should look... different opinions make judging interesting... that being said if you have ever watched one of the modeling shows you know that the attitudes of how that model acts also plays into how you vote *shrugs* not the judges but the outside audience which is what the public is! Keep your head held high and be proud of what you do.. if others don't, don't take it so personal and move on. Just my 2 cents on the drama unfolding in here.

[EorzeasNTM]

Just a few replies during a study break!

The Youtube series would be a 5 episode Mini-Cycle. No voters, just 5 judges picking who goes home at the end of each episode.

@Tyriont, if you want it and no one else is fighting for it, take it! Haha. You can run your side how you want, but I will continue to take all pictures up front with the option to resubmit later. You'll probably see why if you do it your way, as I did in Cycle 1. ^^; As for Judges critiques, they have been posted at the end of each round. And the Judges were consistent this whole cycle except for a guest judge in the first few rounds, who then became Santherelle the past ...3 or 4 rounds.

@Whoever said don't bring in people from each race, I said my cast would be 12 people, TWELVE! You can't divide 12 by 5 lolol. It wont be an even amount. But also, shame on you for basically saying some of the people who made it dont deserve it. "Weaker pictures made it through" paraphrasing here but jeez. >_>'

@Anyone else, this is a FFXIV Screenshot Contest borrowing elements and name from America's Next Top Model as a joke. (My email is EorzeasNTMlol<---LOL after all.)

As a judge, I judge the "model" based on their background choice, their outfit choice, and overall feel of the picture. As a judge though, I also score all pictures independently, unlike you voters who choose your favorites. You can choose to vote how you want, even if that means not voting for "cute" character's like lalafels. Its your vote, use it how you want.

But just as much work goes into being cute as being a "real model.(lol)" In this round, Yunie chose a cute outfit (that she had to work to get dyeable), then found a pretty background (out off all the other waterfalls in Eorzea), and then worked for how long to get the perfect face/movement/mob location. Her end result is adorable and a strong picture. In the Elemental picture you posted, she chose a great background (out of all the other backgrounds in Eorzea) and she found a cute outfit AND a weapon that matched the theme, AND the Ice Elemental didn't just wander into her shot. She lined the camera up to have it perfectly centered above her left hand, as if its balanced in her palm.

I think both pictures are amazing, as are many other pictures she and her Lalafel brother and sister have submitted this competition.

I've agreed with every elimination so far, not counting any rounds where a model quit. Lol.

@Myself, shame on me for opening up a discussion about Cycle 3 and it turning into a negative-fest. I wont be asking for opinions ever again o.o;

[EorzeasNTM]

maybe implement a "model save" option that can be used once during the competition. Where the judges can unanimously vote to save the person about to be voted off,

Oops, didn't mean to forgetcha Tins!
The only reason I wont do this is because it negates the Voters votes, which is cruel, and it shows Judge Bias-ness even if only for 1 round. It would, no WILL, bring up controversy and hard feelings on all sides of the contest. As Heidi said, a model is only as strong as their recent shot! I'm gonna use that for every round a top girl gets in the bottom. >_>; lol

[Minorinz]

ye no, this is a screenshot competition with lotsa emphasis on the modeling aspect which is why i think the judges have a list of criteria or maybe an on the fly moment to evaluate, their evaluation is never consistent, which sometimes works for certain competitors. The one thing that I don't seem to understand is how come hyurs, miqote Elezen etc.. shouldn't be aiming to be sexy 24/7 but then lalas can be cute 24/7 lol
that logic is flawed on many different levels....

It's not about sexiness/cuteness but sometimes repetition gets it boring and makes it very predictable, aka no expressions most of the time, random blank background, clothing/gear not even matching the theme, same repetitive movement/pose/focus/angle... ^^"
I'm quite sure this wouldn't apply to most voters but that's just my opinion~~~
Model X, for example doesn't seem to be coming out to me as sexy or cute all the time but most of her/his shots are just like wow! wtffff that's something i never thought about!! and even when they r being cute and sexy, it's just when its needed. Also, i was in this competition for a while and i kind of understand the mindset of a "model" but now as a voter it does make me notice things i haven't as a model o:

one more thinggggggg, i've noticed that more voters in this round are actually noting down comments/reasons for their votes which is quite exciting c: !
Models need to get motivated about those reviews!!

[EorzeasNTM]

their evaluation is never consistent,

The one thing that I don't seem to understand is how come hyurs, miqote Elezen etc.. shouldn't be aiming to be sexy 24/7 but then lalas can be cute 24/7 lol

I hope I am not lumped into that not consistent comment. >_> I've been very clear what I look for in a screen shot. Also, the judges scores have rarely been THAT out of sync with the Voters scores. Everyone basically agrees on how strong/weak a picture is.

As for part 2, You can't see all the judges scores independently, only added together, but I will tell you that 2 of us haven't rated a Lalafel very high in the past couple of rounds, and there is talk of how boring being cute is getting.

It's fun for Lalafel models I bet, because they get "Lalafels cant be models because they are ONLY CUTE!" and at the same time they get "Its really unfair its okay for them to be cute in every picture. they should change it up!" and then if they put on a bikini they get called "disgusting." LOLOL.

As for Hyurs, Miqotes, Elezens, they also have the ability to take cute photos, but keep choosing sexy.

[EorzeasNTM]

There is talk of certain model's loosing their sexy appeal too since they havent changed it up since Prelim 1.

And "put on a bikini" also means "try to be sexy in any way possible"

[Kaiyoko]

@Whoever said don't bring in people from each race, I said my cast would be 12 people, TWELVE! You can't divide 12 by 5 lolol. It wont be an even amount. But also, shame on you for basically saying some of the people who made it dont deserve it. "Weaker pictures made it through" paraphrasing here but jeez. >_>'

@Myself, shame on me for opening up a discussion about Cycle 3 and it turning into a negative-fest. I wont be asking for opinions ever again o.o;

I apologize if my comments were taken in a negative way.

What I mean by not taking each race was not that there is an inferior/weaker race or anything along those lines. I just don't think you should fill requirements of having X number of X race just to satisfy a quota. At the beginning when we were going through the preliminary rounds we were forced to pick 2 from each race, when I ( and others too ) wanted to vote for 3 of the "models" from the same race. Instead for my vote to count I was forced to pick 2 models I may or may not have felt were my favorites. I'd rather vote on a "model" by "model" basis then being forced to vote for a specific number of "models" from each race.

By the sounds of it you're changing that though.
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As far as Yunie's two pics I posted goes, I thought the later was well done, maybe it didn't seem like it came off that way.

For the 1st one I realize she put effort into the outfit, but that still doesn't change my opinion the photo is too much focused on the background and less on her and the elemental. Obviously it's my opinion and you see it differently.

I never stated she should go home or didn't deserve to be here.