I remember when we did Garuda EX with about 90is Gear...
Big help is to slow the Add, so the Two Wicked Wheels don´t hit the same time, and Tanks being healed in between...
I only did the EX-Triple once for the Quest, still having this Rowena Marks in Inventory... i90 weapons became obsolete... and I never did it again.
Did a "all EX" Run last week, und as i did it maybe back in 2.2 times (no idea, when came levi ex? before that)... I absolutely had NO IDEA what to do, thus okay, wiping once or twice on titan, ... but afterwards i tought "hey, this was supposed to be hard some day"...
By i90 Gear thrown at you and i100 basically buyable since long time, people hit 50 and have good gear at hand nearly immedeatly.
but skill is still not handed out for free...
Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...
Raise ilv or fix, is out of the equation in any content. I saw a group of ilv 100 with max echo still die hard in Garuda Ex. Ilv is not the matter, the fight mechanic is not the problem, the skill to learn, comprehend, follow instructions, on other hand are the KEYS...
its been over 5days... 4hrs a day and thats all i have been doing. and still can not get through this one with a grp that will stay to get it done. NO ONE wants to do this one. most bail after first wipe and dont want to learn how to do it.
i have this on my quest line to do... and the game is not fun anymore if this is all i do all day every day.
either needs to be fixed or taken off quest line so people can enjoy the game !!!!
gather a group in FC, make them do triangle method, get a win under 2 hours and enjoy Titan Ex, the fight which will take you month to complete if you continue to PUG itits been over 5days... 4hrs a day and thats all i have been doing. and still can not get through this one with a grp that will stay to get it done. NO ONE wants to do this one. most bail after first wipe and dont want to learn how to do it.
i have this on my quest line to do... and the game is not fun anymore if this is all i do all day every day.
either needs to be fixed or taken off quest line so people can enjoy the game !!!!
(not kidding or trolling, that's what happened for me)
Transfering from a JP server to a NA one things like this were a shock for me, shortly after these all came out you could DF these on a JP server and get 1-2 shot win 95% of the time. It seems the JP use PF for practice groups and DF four quick wins, here it is just sad what happens in DF. I used to love just being able to check them all off in DF and run the fights for quick wins, made the game more fun for me and it was something I could do when bored. Now that I am on a NA server it seems so useless to run these, long que times and a horrible experiance 95% of the time.
"The problem is usually terrible dps, the majority of people can't play their jobs to anywhere near their potential." personally I dont think it is just the DPS, so many ppl that complain in here and in DF have no idea how to play their job anywhere near its potential, and rather than learn they come on here to whine, after they spent their time whining in game about others.
I used to wonder why the JP were so stuck on JP onry and no forigners, now that I play on a NA server I completely understand.
The JP method for this fight IMO was/ is far more efficent.
Except there's no main scenario attached to ex primals.its been over 5days... 4hrs a day and thats all i have been doing. and still can not get through this one with a grp that will stay to get it done. NO ONE wants to do this one. most bail after first wipe and dont want to learn how to do it.
i have this on my quest line to do... and the game is not fun anymore if this is all i do all day every day.
either needs to be fixed or taken off quest line so people can enjoy the game !!!!
Also, if you can't get past this, which is one of the easiest fights in the game after a little bit of practice, then you're just going to come here and complain about the next fight even more. Plenty of people have cleared everything, so the problem isn't with the content.
Impossible for it to be more efficient. MT is left doing nothing since Garuda won't take damage, so you're missing out on the damage output from MT. Easier, so that tank doesn't have to use cooldowns for Wicked Wheel, and easier so melee don't have to pay attention? Sure. But not more efficient.
the speed at which Suparna is melt down without even the chance to use WW tends to prove the contrary. Sure you miss the dps of the MT on Suparna (which equals maybe 1-2 GCD of the DPSs' burst maybe) but you improve by a fair margin survivability and ease of the process.Impossible for it to be more efficient. MT is left doing nothing since Garuda won't take damage, so you're missing out on the damage output from MT. Easier, so that tank doesn't have to use cooldowns for Wicked Wheel, and easier so melee don't have to pay attention? Sure. But not more efficient.
Not even considering this method allows to completely ignore Chirada thus saving time. Burn Suparna down, kill Garuda. Fastest way to do it (requires the HP to survive the extra damage by Chirada even with spiny)
You can ignore Chirada anyway with just using 2 tanks and not triangle. Also the DPS required to do that is typically beyond most parties, because they are bad. My MT damage output is also greater than the majority of PF DPS, again because they are bad and only doing 30~60% of what they should be doing.the speed at which Suparna is melt down without even the chance to use WW tends to prove the contrary. Sure you miss the dps of the MT on Suparna (which equals maybe 1-2 GCD of the DPSs' burst maybe) but you improve by a fair margin survivability and ease of the process.
Not even considering this method allows to completely ignore Chirada thus saving time. Burn Suparna down, kill Garuda. Fastest way to do it (requires the HP to survive the extra damage by Chirada even with spiny)
The fastest way to do it is to not even see the 2nd set of sisters and kill it before you even need to use the first spiny plume. This, of course, requires DPS who are good.
Last edited by Ellatrix; 10-02-2014 at 05:32 AM.
Five weeks. I've been doing this godforsaken fight 3-4 attempts almost everyday for five weeks.
Raise ilevel requirment to 200, and don't allow people to queue for it until the next expansion. This is the only way a crappy DF pug will ever beat this.
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