New Housing Patch Makes Sense - Serious Discussion Only

[Disappoint]

And by the time I get back from work, they will be sold out on small ones again, its not enough with doubeling it

In a perfect world Square would just copy LotRO's system. A gorillion houses/neighborhoods so anyone who puts forth the time and effort to get one isn't left out. But that'd be asking for nice things, which we apparently can't have on this forum.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

its not about the pricing it about availability, all players should be able to have access to personal housing...

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

doubling the amount of plots is still not enough..... 2.3 million players!.... thats 2.3 million plots that should be available for personal housing, since we are all paying the same sub we should all have access to the game content. currently a person that was able to log before all plot sold and bought a house has now more content available than me. this is not fair.


is like saying ooooh sorry you cant get in ST , the players who signed up after the patch have now exclusive access to ST.... you can go kill little bugs outside..

[Corillea]

I honestly thought they were going to make a whole different neighborhood for personal housing, and I think others thought the same. I also believe I am repeating what other people have mentioned here. Why not have a different neighborhood? That way FCs aren't competing with other players for spots in the FC wards. Also, I don't think it would be a bad idea if all personal housing were small houses, and a small yard. (I thought that's how it would go >.>) It would be cute to have your friends be your neighbors if possible!

My opinion, but it was a horrible idea to have personal housing and FC housing together.

[Zyphione]

The producer would have had many more threads saying he is lying and pushing back content to prevent enjoyment of game if he did not do this? He gave what he was allowed to within his capabilities to and he has many threads in this section of people being prevented enjoyment of game?

Some play on a very populated server but want to have everything which has limit? Like number of land? That is poor planning and they should expect this? When a person lives in very high population city it is same thing right? You do not always get what you want? Some take the producer's word for granted just because he can only mention doubling land plots for now in future?

He has mentioned in English that he will update more when he can? Then you should wait until he does.
Am I right to say this? He is knowing of the problem you have with it being bought very quickly and will look at all statistics and plan ahead in hopes to satisfy the players within his means. Has he not tried his best so far?
Some are very unfair to him by rudely calling him a liar and give very bad comparing examples to ridicule him further, then it is only deserving this happen to you?

[PenutButter]

I just recently learned that SE is only adding 2 new wards per city in this patch. Other than the fact that personal housing should had came at the same time as FC housing, this is the only other real legitimate concern. I know SE is already aware of this situation and have been having serious discussing about monitoring the situation before deciding to make the BIG decision to spend millions to upgrade their server but I just can't imagine that 2 new wards per city is gonna be close to enough. They're adding new wards in 2.4 but that can take awhile and we still don't know how many will be added in 2.4. Its not an easy decision I know, since servers cost a ton, but space is really gonna be an issue here.

And no, separating FC and personal housing will NOT solve the issue. They can make personal housing a complete joke compare to FC housing but who wants that? I know I don't. There's no point in personal housing if they're just gonna do that, get a personal room instead.

[Disappoint]

The producer would have had many more threads saying he is lying and pushing back content to prevent enjoyment of game if he did not do this? He gave what he was allowed to within his capabilities to and he has many threads in this section of people being prevented enjoyment of game?

When you crap out half-assed content too early for everyone to properly enjoy, you get Warhammer Online. No one should have to experience that again. But here we are. A delay to ensure quality is always, ALWAYS better than presenting people with a bare bones preview of what could have been.

[Zyphione]

When you crap out half-assed content too early for everyone to properly enjoy, you get Warhammer Online. No one should have to experience that again. But here we are. A delay to ensure quality is always, ALWAYS better than presenting people with a bare bones preview of what could have been.

It is blanket rule that no content is enjoyed by all as there will be people who complain, more than once and more than once in a single thread, repeated over being victims of not enjoying content? Then this is normal along with many theory like how "not everyone can afford large house".

You use many unifying terms I bold and your tone convey by text is very condescending as you seem to be projecting higher understanding of game success? If so you could register for SqE to improve the game

Did anyone think the 2 plots were just thoughts of "we have a little space to push in 2 plots so lets give them 2 first since we can afford it for now" or "it is not much but it is something"? This is not 'preview' as you say.

Everyone only think in the negative because they are the victims then unite against what was the producer's attempt of providing what he could because he did not want to always delay and delay for more than 10 month. If he delayed it again I can assure more threads but different spine for story to complain against the developers.

Instead of appreciating the developer tried to give a chance, even if you miss it, you should be happy he tried? So what if you did not get what you want? His effort to do so still there and those who managed to get it then good for you. Time did not pass a day and so many threads made on same thing?
This is communal reinforcement phenomenon? Almost as bad as Atma grind thread.

Many have long lost ability to appreciate effort and have now developed ability to be victims and develop further ability to describe many hypothetical situation in reverse of logic? But even hypothetical situations will give cause for different complaints but then, you will tell those who say "producer only push back and never provide" that you rather him push back and do a good job?
Then it is the same as those who agree with this who tell you they are happy he tried to give people a chance.

Either way who is right and what can be done?
Only to wait until next promised update like the producer said he will give.

[Maero]

have personal housing the same prices as FC housing is absolutely the silliest idea yet. So yes it is about pricing.
So for me for the smallest plot available would cost over 3 mil, that is soooo not worth the money.
I will remain satisfied with my personal room i guess

[Teryaani]

It is blanket rule that no content is enjoyed by all as there will be people who complain, more than once and more than once in a single thread, repeated over being victims of not enjoying content? Then this is normal along with many theory like how "not everyone can afford large house".

I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse here or not. This isn't a new dungeon that some people hate the mechanics of. Your content point would work for that. This is an, admittedly vanity, add in that a large percentage of the players have been promised for months. On top of that, they were expecting a particular version of that content and were handed something that, lets not mince words here, sucked.

You use many unifying terms I bold and your tone convey by text is very condescending as you seem to be projecting higher understanding of game success? If so you could register for SqE to improve the game

Completely unhelpful statement used to dismiss another person's opinion. Well done! According to SE, the forums are used to help gauge reaction to content and the wants of the players. So, he is trying to improve the game by voicing his opinion.

Did anyone think the 2 plots were just thoughts of "we have a little space to push in 2 plots so lets give them 2 first since we can afford it for now" or "it is not much but it is something"? This is not 'preview' as you say.

It most certainly is a preview. Yoshi said that they would be expanding the ward size in 2.4. Given how little was added, it's safe to call this a preview.

Everyone only think in the negative because they are the victims then unite against what was the producer's attempt of providing what he could because he did not want to always delay and delay for more than 10 month. If he delayed it again I can assure more threads but different spine for story to complain against the developers.

Instead of appreciating the developer tried to give a chance, even if you miss it, you should be happy he tried? So what if you did not get what you want? His effort to do so still there and those who managed to get it then good for you. Time did not pass a day and so many threads made on same thing?

What I keep seeing being asked by the most reasonable people here was basically, 'Treat us like adults'. If you knew that the system was going to be implemented this way and you knew that the player base was expecting something else, tell us in advance so we can prepare. The player base was blind sided by this. Communicate Communicate Communicate.

Many have long lost ability to appreciate effort and have now developed ability to be victims and develop further ability to describe many hypothetical situation in reverse of logic? But even hypothetical situations will give cause for different complaints but then, you will tell those who say "producer only push back and never provide" that you rather him push back and do a good job?
Then it is the same as those who agree with this who tell you they are happy he tried to give people a chance.

Don't change the subject. This isn't about appreciating effort or not. This is about a bait and switch. We were led to believe that we were getting one thing and instead were given something far less grand.

Either way who is right and what can be done?
Only to wait until next promised update like the producer said he will give.

In this case, the players are right to be angry. I think the reaction from every single group of players should have told you that.