Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

I think you have 2 camps here. The first camp are those that are all grown up and don't feel like they need artificial boundaries and restrictions forced on them by the developers. The other camp... well the other camp likely still have a mandated bedtime.

My two cents.

[Bethor]

Ok really had to log in at work to post this =x Couldn't really resist!

First of all.....

In terms of FFXIV it will be always likes this...


[Edit: Is there a way to display those pictures directly? :S]

There will always be the Pro's and Con's for both side, so why are people taking up arguments 3940394 times? :O

Some people think the game is unplayable right now, some think the opposite of course. But it will be always likes this. We all got different opinions, which makes us MORTAL xD

Fighting against each other won't be any good on these forums. The Dev Team is actually counting on the players whose are still playing for feedback and bug reporting. It's certainly pissing me a little bit off, that the game is currently developed for PS3 Release. But on the other hand, that's another customer base which needs to be attracted.

There's still a lot of fixing to do. We have to be patient. I know it's hard. I can't wait to have the same fun in this game I've had in FFXI. But in FFXI there were good times and of course bad times.

Yoshi's Team got a big task to solve. Satisfying the hardcore and the casual gamer at the same time. That only works if one content gives an advantage to the hardcore players and a disadvantage to casual gamers, and vice versa.

I think the hardcore gamers will be probably mad about the simple fact, that casual gamers will "eventually" (we don't know it yet until the game evolves a bit more) get the good loot on an easier way than the hardcore gamers.

I'm not sure if it's wise to give players "better" items/rewards which have plenty time for playing and the other players will always stay a tiny bit behind.

i.e. Hardcore: Weapon with Double Attack
Casual: Weapon with Occ. Attacks 1-2 times

Something down the line like this.... Everyone needs the chance to get the same items. Otherwise people might be getting mad at it. On the other hand there should some accomplishment...
It's a never ending story, I swear. There will always be a back and forth between hardcore and casual. We'll see what Yoshi's team is pulling out to let us have a great time, with either dungeon spamming or w/e xD

Honestly I don't want that SE is turning into a blizzard-like behvaiour. People always moan in the forums there and blizzard "fixes" that within a few weeks. I kinda liked (and sometimes disliked) how the way FFXI was treated. SE always made their "own" thing and never really listened to the players, at least it felt like it.

Yoshi needs to find a way which fits to both player bases, which is hard as hell. Unless he pulls out some general idea how to fix this.. like....

I dunno.. I have no clue how this can be done to satisfy everyone equally. There will always be bad and good decisions. Just wait until SE is adding more stuff and don't play if you dislike it. It's your choice. Not to sound like a fanboy here, I want a great game like you guys, but we have to be patient.

If I would be a comm rep. I'd have closed this thread by now since there won't be an end anytime soon xD

[Bethor]

... go outside? Engage a member of the opposite/same sex?

Quoted and corrected!

Oh and... Post count+1! xD

[Linkurrra]

To me this sounds like a good thing. Alot of you are complaining that it is so short? Why?
To me if a person wants to camp out a dungeon to get all the virtual items for their character, more power to them! I don't have the time to camp a dungeon all day long. And if ppl can put forth the time to do so they should be rewarded by getting the items sooner than everybody else!

Personally when I only have 2hrs a weekday to put towards a game I don't want to only be able to play once and call it quits for the day.

This is about a fair of a way to split it.
What I would be more insterested about is will we be able to get in. With only 2 gungeons will there be a limit on the amount of instances that can be ran at one time. Most instances there is to control lag! If you have everybody in the game coming to do the same dungeons, it is unlikely we will be able to get in. :P

I would hope that the figure this out shortly after they launch it, or what would be totally awesome of they add in a queuing system before they launch.

That way you have to go to the physical location to enter the queue, maybe possibly pay to queue. (yes I know other games offer this service for free, but this is FF and SE here. You know how they work) Then once you are in the queue you don't have to wait around to get in to play!

You can go about your business and when your turn is up you get a pop up message that the instance is ready. You got 3mins to respond. If you say yes, you are teleported to the instance with your party members you listed in the queue!
Say you don't respond you are automatically entered in the next available queue. (this repeats 3 times). If you fail to respond 3 times you fall off the queue list altogether and have to go back to be enlisted again.

[AdvancedWind]

One thing I really gotta add is that is pretty funny to see many posters here just jumping to "lol get a life / girlfriend / boyfriend / whatever" when they're out of proper arguments.

[Bethor]

I think SE already said there won't be such a queue system ;O Sounds like a medium dungeon-browser to me =x

[Linkurrra]

Casual is the way to go.

The changes aren't really changes for the casual though. Too bad.

Short re-enter time means = those with more time on their hands benefit the most. This isn't casual.

Casual would be a weekly lock-out timer with excellent drop rates and forgiving difficulty.

Similar to how abolishing fatigue and introducing exp bonus for not playing helps hardcore and punishes casuals. Yet people don't get it. Brilliant.

Or provide a way to schedule to put yourself in queue in advance. That would be casual. and if I was having great difficulty getting into a dungeon because I have to wait longer than the time I have available to play. Well forget that. I would rather schedule a time when I have time available and then get in that way.

[Chinook]

That was an epic thread, both sides had good arguments despite the insane amount of bullshit.

I'm still against the 5 min re-entry tho (since there aren't currency required or other kind of restrictions), because I believe rules and restrictions are what makes games, sports and other activities fun and challenging (ex: imagine a baseball game without strikes or what FFXI BCNMs would have been without beatsmen seals requirements).

I will really lmao if the quest needs to be active to enter the dungeon, and the quest has a real time restriction.

[Arcell]

People really just need to chill out and play the game. Is it really that big a deal that the game doesn't obnoxiously restrict your entrance to a dungeon? Is it really that big a deal that you only have to take 5 minute breaks between dungeons? How about everyone complaining just shuts up and plays the damn game. This is what they decided on, deal with it and keep playing or leave. If you're not having fun with a game, you stop playing it. If you're that hung up on being a special elitist snowflake that you can't handle the thought of other people having the gear you do, this game probably isn't for you.

I seriously hope the dev team stops listening to a lot of what this forum brings up. Listen, take suggestions with a grain of salt and take a step back. Because we've been given small chances to voice our opinion most here think they're entitled to have the game made in their image.

[Sagagemini]

One thing I really gotta add is that is pretty funny to see many posters here just jumping to "lol get a life / girlfriend / boyfriend / whatever" when they're out of proper arguments.

Get a life and a girlfriend!

Bom ve-lo por aqui pequeno Ash lol