A remake of a zone that we loved in FFXI ?

[Gath]

Xarcabard
/10char

[Jennestia]

Tis be the grand palace btw. (Hidden for Onidemon's protection)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSirK5fz-00

[Oscillate_Wildly]

I'd like to see another area similar to the Highlands, lots of thunder/lightning storms, lots of hills. To be perfectly honest if current maps branched out, or were broken down to reveal more variety that'd be even better. I can't believe that anyone fully utilizes the current seamless maps in any area besides the main town and leve-areas.

Currently they're kind of a waste of space.

[Cichy]

I would rather see impressive battlefields like Empyreal Paradox

[Tezz_Xivectro]

A cavernous maw could appear to take us into this "new" zone. The purpose of recreating the FF11 zone could be to aid on a quick side-mission to help Vana'diel out from an evil force traversing worlds. It would be the perfect way to cameo FF11 characters for a quick side-mission or raid.

I would rather see impressive battlefields like Empyreal Paradox

Perhaps the area could be a dungeon/raid though.

[Jennestia]

An extended Abyssea - Empyreal Paradox I fully support -- Especially if it comes with a remix of its song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsOi7XJsZWw

Spoilered again.

[Kyant]

Two categories:

Somewhere that looked nice:
Lufaise Meadows
Al'Taieu
Attohwa Chasm
Misareaux Coast

Somewhere with secrets:
Xarcabard
Movalpolos
Phomiuna Aqueducts or Sacrarium
Castle Zvahl

if I had to choose just one? I would say...Phominua Aqueducts, with Castle Zvahl coming in a close second.

[Preypacer]

Kiss FFXIV goodbye if you tell us to go play their successful MMORPG and continue to make them more money, since any business would see that FFXI is worth supporting than FFXIV is given that XIV is costing them loads of money as they aren't even getting box sales to stabilize the drainage - Whereas XI? It's getting Box, Steam and Monthly fee sales.

SE: FFXI...or FFXIV...which game should we focus on? I mean FFXI is making us millions upon millions..and FFXIV is costing us millions..choices. Choices. THE CHOICES!



They didn't ignore any FFXI related request as no one requested FFXI related stuff beyond the basics that XIV chose to utilize but ignore how XI did it. The Linkshell system? XI had basic controls which XIV could have expanded.

The Party Search system? Recruit is barely working compared to a flag system (like XI had) and a search system (like XI had). So telling people to make them more money is kind of a dead give away that you wouldn't want XIV to survive. As much as time and money they put into XIV, they aren't and won't be making any on it for a long long time and even then, it's skeptical at best if people will sub given how everyone immediately bad mouths XIV on sites.

Remember, this topic wasn't a "OMG MAKE THESE ZONES NOW" request topic.



It's Taboo to mention Square Enix's other MMORPG here.

Yet people will freely reference WoW for things SE should do to the game, and hardly anyone seems to notice.

Wonder if there's anything to read into that.

[Gukster]

I really liked the Riverne Sites just because the fantasy factor to it; As for Nostalgia.. Lufaise Meadows was my favorite zone and I loved CoP the most in FFXI

edit: Purgonrogo Isle was awesome looking too for a chill spot

[Preypacer]

Succesful MMO and FFXI don't match. It was sucessful at one point until WOW came out and FFXI turned into a niche. Trying to play FFXI you would see how deserted it got. So SE... between supporting a 10yrs old MMO that nobody wants to play anymore and which doesn't even make the top 10 of anyone's best mmo list... chose between that and supporting a brand new MMO which with some work can turn into a major contender in today's mmo market.

Choices choices....hmmm? right?

First, when WoW was released, almost all MMORPGs became "niche" by comparison if we're only talking about numbers. There's "Most Other MMOs", and then there's "WoW".

That said...

Being niche and being successful are not mutually exclusive.

As for FFXI, it most definitely has been successful. It's been a cash cow for SE. It's only relatively recently, in the last year or so that the game's population has started to take a noticeable dive.

It kinda stands to reason that if FFXI had been unsuccessful for SE, that they wouldn't have decided to put the time and resources into developing another one. And on top of that, they've announced that they're working on a third one now.

But let's examine how "unsuccessful" FFXI has been...
1. FFXI maintained ~500k subscriptions for up to 7 years after its launch and succeeded at this despite having out-dated tech, breaking or ignoring almost every rule of what a "modern MMORPG is supposed to be like", such as being heavily party-centric, having very little hand-holding and having a much slower pace than newer MMOs that were cropping up around it.

2. FFXI maintained 32 servers for, again, upwards of about 7 years after its launch. This is a notable achievement when you consider that other, newer and shinier MMOs were dropping down to the 100-200k player mark and merging down to *maybe* a dozen servers worldwide after only a few months of their launch. Some were doing so badly - despite doing "everything a modern MMO is supposed to do" - that they were shut down.

3. For a long time, FFXI was, I believe, the 3rd most popular subscription-based MMORPG in the world. That's nothing to sneeze at.

4. No other AAA commercial MMORPG that launched around the time FFXI did managed to maintain the number of players it did, spread across the number of servers it did for as long as it did.

Those are details you can not dismiss or sneer at, however much they might not fit into someone's personal agenda. So, when people cite FFXI as a point of reference of how things could be done better in FFXIV - which is doing worse so far than some of the MMOs I describe above - it would be wise for people to not be so quick on the "stop talking about FFXI!" response.

Personal opinions aside, by any objective measure, SE should be paying attention to what they did right in FFXI, figure out the things that seem to have helped the game attain such loyalty and longevity with so many people, and find a way to translate that into FFXIV's setting.

As per "it's taboo to mention SE's other mmo here" ... do we really need to discuss FFXI or any other SE game in FFXIV's official forums? Doesn't FFXI have it's own forums for that?

You're free to not discuss FFXI all you like. Others are free to discuss FFXI all they like. Last I checked, there is no official moratorium on discussing it in these forums.

Should we discuss another thread SE will just skip over thinking "another damn "remake FFXI" thread" or should we give them the feedback they are waiting to see from us?

Do you know they're saying that? Or, are you just projecting that because it's what you're, perhaps, thinking when you see one?

FYI: SE has already said, a long time ago now, that they brought the races of FFXI into FFXIV to help maintain familiarity for the players transitioning over. They brought over the same style/design for goblins from XI. They brought over the same style/design for the Qiqirns from FFXI. And so on... Seems more reasonable to me that SE is not as opposed to drawing on FFXI as you'd like to think.

And no one is asking for them to "remake FFXI" in this thread. The thread is simply about discussing what zones in FFXI did you like enough that you'd like to see them (or something similar to them) in FFXIV.

Perhaps if you stopped exaggerating and misconstruing what the thread is actually about, you wouldn't be so bent out of shape about it. Or, then again... maybe not.