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  1. #71
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    Deviant1's Avatar
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    Deviant One
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I like this change, it discourages people from spirit bonding in dungeons. The only thing that would have been better is to remove spirit bonding from dungeons/raids/DF content all together.

    Seriously, the arrogance of people joining a multiplayer event with such subpar gear is offensive. If you want to spirit bind, do it on your time! Don't have the rest of the party have to carry your selfish lazy arse.

    DPS do less damage, Tanks bleed more and healer cure for less in SB gear. All of which is a recipe for a wipe or at minimum longer runs. If you want to SB, then make a PF for others of like mind and run it that way, but to force delays and crappy performance on everyone else is wrong.

    As for the raised materia prices, well I guess we will have to raise the cost of materials and shards to compensate. Don't think for a second your going to raise the price on what I want without me returning the favor.
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  2. #72
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Well, U can't get T2 materia from Urth anymore, good job SE, T2 already cost 2/3x more than T3, now will probably be 4x as much, unless there are just some amazing lvl 3x SB places out there
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  3. #73
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    Cole Slawter
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    I like this change, it discourages people from spirit bonding in dungeons. The only thing that would have been better is to remove spirit bonding from dungeons/raids/DF content all together.
    And how would you suggest people SB i70 gear if it wouldn't work in dungeons/raids/DF content all together? It's never been doable in open world fighting and my full melded astral and vanya stuff was not hurting anyone pre-2.2 content. Can't just make blanket statements without a little thought first ...
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  4. #74
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    Lyseaa Redwyne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    inb4 lvl50s keep killing my quest mobs do something SE
    Don't see how that would be effected.

    Drop farming mods like Goats, Boars, Diremites, etc should now allow for multitasking
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  5. #75
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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColeSlawter View Post
    This suggests to me that you also cannot go to urths or whatever other popular SB points are with anything other than 45-50?
    This might cut both ways though. Soemthing I've already realized: when you SB militia (i55) gear by doing, say, Northern Thanalan FATEs, you're going to be 6-10 levels above the level of the mobs, which should mean accelerated bonding for such gear. Hell, this change might even make it possible to SB i70 gear in open world(?)
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  6. #76
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    Lyseaa Redwyne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Making up some brass and silver jewelry and going to test it open world, will post results.
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  7. #77
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    Lyseaa Redwyne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I am a little moist right now.....

    Killed 5 aldgoats....

    Electrum Choker HQ 1% (Basically nothing)
    Brass Earrings HQ 8%
    Silver Wristlets of Crafting HQ 5%
    Brass Wing of Crafting HQ 7%
    Silver Wing of Crafting HQ 5%
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  8. #78
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    Thayos Redblade
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    This is a dumb rule change. I'd SB in Syrcus Tower and expert dungeons at times, but I'd only do like one accessory at a time... and the vast majority of people I'd examine were doing the same or not SBing at all.

    This wasn't really a problem... just people on the forums jumping to conclusions and complaining.

    SE "fixed" something that wasn't broken.
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  9. #79
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Can anyone say if SBing the i49~ stuff in Urth's Gift was affected (either upping SB or reducing rates)
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  10. #80
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    Minako Nakamura
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    Adamantoise
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yahavage View Post
    The amount of butthurt from this change is staggering. I had no idea I was carrying so many people! I should pay more attention I guess.

    This is a brilliant change.
    And yet... with me in spirit bonding accessories, i was still outdpsing people in full high level gear. Sad times my friend. What's it matter if our average item level meets the requirements.

    Here is how you fix this SE. Make it to where you can't click commence until you have the appropriate item level for the dungeon/raid. And make it to where you cannot change out gear in said place to anything that would bring you below the item level you came in with. PROBLEM SOLVED. Change it back to the old spirit bonding way, and implement this change.
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