So It's against the rules to need for another job?....

[Wavytiger]

There are multiple reasons to NEED loot. Gearing your job, desynthesis and company credits. I will never feel ashamed to roll need because I always actually do need it.

[PArcher]

Unless you are in a pre-formed party with set lotting rules, you can roll whatever you want on any loot. If you can Need, go ahead and Need. Greed gear you want but can't Need.

I'll roll on everything that drops from chests (except Voidsent Blood...100% useless drop...and a few specific weapon/armor mats from Qarn and CC) unless I feel the need to pass on it. Even if I don't "use" the gear, I can still sell it (seals or gil), which is often why I greed-roll everything. There's still a bunch of gear I'm after for vanity purposes, and if they drop I will Need/Greed on them, no exceptions.

OP did nothing wrong with his rolls. There is no in-game rule on loot other than who can roll Need, and if you can click that button you are in the right doing so (unless in a pre-formed party with set loot rules and you're breaking them).

[ispano]

There are multiple reasons to NEED loot. Gearing your job, desynthesis and company credits. I will never feel ashamed to roll need because I always actually do need it.

I won't ever tell someone how to roll. I will however choose to not play with someone who will use need to something like desynth or seals. You hit need on that belt to turn in for seals, then you are being utterly selfish. Why? Because it's no longer for your class/role at that point. EVERYONE there can turn it in for seals the same. Not just you. Everyone worked for the item, but you feel like jacking them out of the chance for it as well.

You can use the line that they can need on their type of item in return all you want, still doesn't change anything. RNG likes to play with some people that way. Fairest thing is to greed if you're using for one of those two things.

Again, won't tell you to play that way, but I will ditch a group with someone who does that.

[AiChyan]

No its not against the rules. That button lit up; and therefore you are entitled to do whatever you want with loot from using it to gear up to wrecking it via desynth. Its your choice to need it, or give it to others. No guilt trips involved.

[Urielparadox]

*Unless for glamour as long as everyone else greeds, I greed. if someone who doesn't needs currently needs. I need from then on.* Just to play devils advocate, people leveling desynth are actually more in need of dungeon drops, where as someone lvling can lvl their own craft, buy off the market board, buy from npc, gear from quest, buy with seals(usually the best choice anyways), or get gear from dungeons. people lvling desynth at high lvl have 2 options, spend 40k+ x 50, upwards of more then that at higher levels. new player spends 40k once. if an i55 person gets in a party of 8 people and goes hunting they can easily get i90-i95+ in 3-4 hrs depending on the cycle of the A's when you start. Which is way more effective than getting in a dungeon. You could argue the person saying they need dungeon gear more for their current job to lvl is in fact being the greedy person.

[Canadane]

Just to play devils advocate, people leveling desynth are actually more in need of dungeon drops, where as someone lvling can lvl their own craft, buy off the market board, buy from npc, gear from quest, buy with seals(usually the best choice anyways), or get gear from dungeons. people lvling desynth at high lvl have 2 options, spend 40k+ x 50, upwards of more then that at higher levels. new player spends 40k once. ... You could argue the person saying they need dungeon gear more for their current job to lvl is in fact being the greedy person.

At the same time, if I am levelling GSM desynth, and go into a dungeon as a scholar, I'm entitled to use Need on any healing gear including the GSM stuff. If someone takes away some dps or tanking earrings I'm not going to get upset. I wouldn't expect people to be upset at the healer taking the healing drops either.

[Buff_Archer]

Lancer/Dragoon is in a uniquely screwed-over position in regards to gear at this level, and as soon as I glimpsed the main post and the gear involved I knew what this was about. (That said, the person OP is referring to didn't have to act lower class about it or expect the OP to be a psychic) So it's hard for LNC/DRG to come be good gear at some stages. Hard to believe for bards/monks who see better def stats on Tank/Lancer gear than they have on theirs, but this gear is actually worse than tank gear even though it says tank/lancer classes. So some of it is a much needed upgrade for Lancers/Dragoons, yet they can only Greed for it, so they would NEVER be able to get this upgrade on runs where a tank (often lvl 50 geared) would just swipe it for the seals. And if they did pass it, I'd lose something I should have been able to roll Need on to begin with to like a Conjurer on Greed. For this I blame SE for having LNC gear that a LNC can't roll Need on... I wouldn't expect the other classes to know the Lancer could Greed only. After getting screwed out of upgrades this way by having gear I could equip to to classes that couldn't equip them, I just explained at the START of my next run what the situation was, and it was never a problem. I don't blame anyone else who rolled for the gear of course, I blamed the system that's broken on this regard.

[Bluevann]

To those who Need for GC points, I'd like to remind them that there are multiple ways to earn GC points, while that instance duty is the only way for someone who needs that piece of armor to get it. You never know, you may be dealing with someone who has been farming the duty over and over waiting to get that piece. I think at the very least it would be nice to use Greed instead, least you give them a chance to compete with you, instead of Needing for something that... well... you don't effectively Need.

Do the supply deliveries or GC leves if you need credits that bad. They're still better than FATEs and Expert Delivery.

Honestly I wish SE would add a "Donate to Grand Company" button in the loot roll window (With lower priority than Greed and higher priority than Pass), so that players interested in GC points could automatically get them during the duty. Of course at the same time they should remove Expert Delivery from the GC counter. This would ensure that those who roll Greed will actually use the thing (or sell it, I guess, for armor like Dzmael Darkhold. But that could simply be fixed by spiritbonding automatically to 1% any armor piece that you win lot on).

Unfortunately this wouldn't help with people greeding for desynth.

[Sadana]

I commented earlier, but wanted to add:
Way I see it... that stuff is a "thank you for joining the party so I could get through this dungeon" perk for those not in your pre-made. I'll roll greed on stuff cause I hate to see it drop to the floor and I can really use it for something (alt class, desynth, supply missions, etc.) It breaks my heart when a new player rolls greed instead of need on an item either because they think they are being altruistic or they don't understand the need/greed/pass thing (I will take a moment to explain right after something like this happens.)

BUT SE really needs to fix the need button for the gear listed as tank + LNC/DRG. That's just bad coding or something.

[ForteXX]

BUT SE really needs to fix the need button for the gear listed as tank + LNC/DRG. That's just bad coding or something.

There's nothing to fix,.