Was Coil 2 and Ramuh extreme over tune?

[Totobi]

Never once told you I one shotted SCoB on release day, but we were "server 3rd" (Excalibur - Yes the one with BG) for pretty much everything... not that server 3rd is anything to be proud of, but we completed EVERYTHING up to dive bombs of T9 without a single bit of help from anyone or their videos. You don't know me or who I roll with, so think before you make random judgments with no evidence.

No, i think i hit the nail on the head. You're nothing but a copycat - copying someone elses rotations, someone elses strategies and then claiming everything is easy. Not that it's a bad thing of course, if something works why not? I don't see it worthy of bragging-rights though.

[razzgrizz3]

the only thing that is overtuned with ramuh is effort required to down versus reward. there is simply no incentive to run it and nobody wants to do it. no learning parties and no clear parties either. everybodys bonkers over hunts these days for some reason. i already see a bunch of full i110 running around that still cant beat t5 or titan ex...
i hope they add ramuh to duty finder sooner rather than later since my server doesnt want to do it sadly.

[Zaft]

Personally I felt like Coil 6-9 was the perfect difficulty for a normal level raid, and Savage Coil the perfect difficulty for a "Heroic" level raid. I would love to see this continue to be the case in future patches.

As for Ramuh EX, I feel that the difficulty is proper for where we are in the game, however, Ramuh requires something that the other Primal fights don't. Garuda, Titan, Ifrit and Leviathan all required that you be aware of your own position to deal with mechanics. Ramuh, however, requires group coordination.

This is why the fight feels so much harder. You're asking people to not only account for their own positions, but the positions of their seven party members as well. That's a big leap.

[Smartcat]

That's the thing, I belive at least Coil, it's not supposed to be for the average gamer. Not that I cleared mind you, but the hardcore people this this kinda content to show they are the kings of the hill, and it's fine. Ramuh I think it's rather easy, a lot easier compared to titan that's for sure.

[Tiggy]

Was coil 2 and ramuh a bit over tune for average gamer?

Short answer is no. New extremes and coil aren't for the "average gamer" at all so they aren't overtuned. They are there to give somewhat of a challenge for the more hardcore players, and with time they are nerfed.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

Hello troll, please go back to the caves of which you came from. Thank you very much.

As far as I know, math can be used to figure out how much damage you're doing pretty easily. I mean, it does put it into a little tab called the battlelog and throw a timestamp on it.... So take your hate and bring it elsewhere. kthxbai.


I have no problem taking advantage of people's stupidity. I run a business in my real life and literally this is how business works. People are dumb, they see a product, they wanna buy it, regardless of whether or not it's worth it... they put money in your pocket and keep your business going. That's how the world works, buddy. If you don't/can't see that, then it's not my problem. Just think about all the things you've spent money on that were probably a waste yet you fell for it because the advertising looked good and you felt like you wanted it. It's not the seller's fault...

The irony is strong in this one.

[Xellos2099]

Well I guess over tune is not the exact correct term. I felt that for T6-7, SE when a bit overboard mechanic wise, only for t8 I felt it is over tune in term of dps requirement, but not much any more due to Hunt's upgrade. But not even echo will help much in t6-7 unless they completely loosen up the one shot mechanic. As for Ramuh ex, I agree, it is not too hard IF you can get a bunch of people who can operate on Coil 2 lvl, aka, ability to pay attention the teammate position as well as your own like in T7 and excellent communication skill like when to clean up. Most of the wipe happen either tank didn't get enough orbs or during adds phrase where charmed got double or triple shock due to all the thunderblot flying around while trying to kill the adds on time.

[Edli]

For the average player? Of course. That's the whole point of the hardest fights in the game. It would have been pretty damn pathetic if they weren't over tuned for the average player.

[Gilthas]

primal loot is meh and should always be meh compared to coil. The first wave of extremes was too OP for how easy it was. Although I will admit that it's far too easy to get i110 accessories from just collecting soldiery and seals from hunts... shouldn't be max level rewards for something so stupid casual as hunts. If anything yeah, the loot from hunts should be i100 and the new primal/coil should be i110.

See, I disagree completely.

The system we had at launch where BCoB and Myth both gave i90 gear was the best system. Tieing sands and oil to SCoB is where they went wrong.

Just because a portion of the playerbase doesn't/can't do the hard stuff doesn't mean that they don't want to progress too.

[Taruranto]

See, I disagree completely.

The system we had at launch where BCoB and Myth both gave i90 gear was the best system. Tieing sands and oil to SCoB is where they went wrong.

Just because a portion of the playerbase doesn't/can't do the hard stuff doesn't mean that they don't want to progress too.

You need ilevel 110 to do Ramuh and the 3 new dungeons? wat?