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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You can say very similar things about Provoke, Flare, Medica II, and many other abilities.
    this is completely incorrect. none of those have a negative effect on the user.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    How hard is it to glance at MP while you're doing your *gasp* 6 button rotation.
    another person that doesn't know what Shroud of Saints or Aetherflow is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    another person that doesn't know what Shroud of Saints or Aetherflow is.
    Maybe they aren't using the skills because they weren't asked to.
    Hey if your going to require them to ask to use your skills, it's only fair to ask them to use theirs.
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    Do you want your ears to bleed??? I can't sing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Maybe they aren't using the skills because they weren't asked to.
    Hey if your going to require them to ask to use your skills, it's only fair to ask them to use theirs.
    when either of those has a -20% on healing, you can use that argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    when either of those has a -20% on healing, you can use that argument.
    Cleric Stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    when either of those has a -20% on healing, you can use that argument.
    Since it doesn't obvious enough, ff they are oom, they are going to do a lot less than -20% healing.

    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl View Post
    Yeah but thing is, I'm saying I'm not obligated to play songs, not that I won't, the OP on this thread is trying to say that people shouldn't bard if they don't sing songs but that just isn't true when they're playing a dps role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl View Post
    It'd be wasted on summoners who can't play their job properly. Lol
    is irony in its purest form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    can't see TP.

    Shroud of Saints/Aetherflow, i don't know when you've used it or not. i play healer, just because the MP bar is low doesn't mean they need or want Ballad.

    can't keep Foe up all the time, i can use Battle Voice when you pop Raging Strikes if you tell me to.

    why is communicating so hard for people? who is the lazy one?
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    another person that doesn't know what Shroud of Saints or Aetherflow is.
    The only valid point that you have is for TP since you can't see other people's TP bar and minus T8, there shouldn't be a fight where people are TP starved.

    For the rest though, there is no excuse. For example, a healer that died isn't isn't going to have much in terms of MP even with Aetherflow/Shroud of Saints, even less if it's on CD when they get raised. No one at this point should have to tell you to sing, it should be a given yet it seems to pass over the head of most bards.

    And for Requiem, it's common knowledge that its best use is at the start of encounters when DPS uses their cooldown/pots and so on or at key points during encounters( Ifrit's nails, Titan's Heart, Chirada and Suparna).

    Stop trying to justify laziness and learn to play the job appropriately.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    i expect most good SMNs to have used Swiftcast to improve their DPS. Raises goes to whoever has Swiftcast up next or a healer that can get away with hardcasting it without letting someone else die.
    Except for their initial Shadowflare, a lot of summoners in their respective statics are expected to keep Swiftcast up it for an emergency raise.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 08-05-2014 at 06:41 AM.