New Class: Minstrel (Radical Change to Bard Job)

[Laughlyn]

OP you havent even level'd bard / archer to 50 yet...

[Shougun]

Rise Bard Rise, and let the Barcher rest. Smother him in the night and take his name, burn it to ashes and throw it to the winds never to be seen again. Snuff out the barcher from Eorzea!

XD... I've been disappointed with bard not being "Bard" from the day they said Archer would be Bard's base class and they weren't going to change the job system. I mean they have Hunter (FFT) and Ranger (few FF) already- they can make Barcher the new ranged dps, I'm sure -most- people would actually like a more dps focused job and then make Bard.. Bard.

Since from what I see Bard's in FFXIV seldom use their songs and play more dps oriented anyways, Bards that know teamwork will use their songs but it's opposite of the base class focus to reduce dps like that.. bard following archer just doesn't make a logical or iconic play flow.. it's a pet peeve to see bard because I think of that every time.


+1 :P

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

In previous Final Fantasy games, Bards were ranged dps with support abilities. I think it's fine the way it is.

[Saccharin]

This thread has nothing to do with Bard support capabilities its more about making them healers. They will be able to provide buffs however though they will only come from the job and be limited to 1 buff per bard so you'll need 4 bards to get all those enhancements.

We have... healers for this.

This is why I don't like support classes as they just take from existing roles. There's no room for them. Bard is basically a damage dealer with a couple of buffs and should stay that way. The needed roles are already taken by 'specialists' we don't need a fully buffing job or a quasi-healer when we have capable healing classes already.

[Freyt]

IMO you just add a Minstrel Job to the current game and make it more like Edward. Minstrel's would be party wide healers who gave party wide buffs and aoe debuffs. They would equip a harp and have no bow, It would have abilities relating to Edwards songs in FF4, including the 3DS version (Edward got a decent upgrade in the 3DS verison with Life's Anthem, which made him a very good healer). Songs would use minimal MP, but you'd have something to counteract that, like possibly not being able to do anything else until you cancel it, or lower potency in other actions.

[Riepah]

You can't make Bard its own class at this point. People leveled Archer -> Bard, how would you go about suddenly separating Bard from Archer? You can't go and tell current Bards "you're a Ranger now, the class you leveled to 50 is now a different one and you have to level it all over again".

What you could do would be adding the Ranger job and changing the Bard job to be more supporty than it is now, but you can't separate the Bard job from the Archer class.

[Ares_Nocturnal]

I love this idea! Bard was my first job lvled in 1.0 and 2.0 I have always felt it should have used a harp and been more of a support job. Good example Edward from Final Fantasy 4.

[DoubleT]

(ask any EQ/Eq2/FFXI player)

uh, in every pt i was ever in xi, be it xp or endgame, there was almost always at least either a brd, cor, and/or rdm, an usually a combination of 2/3 of those. I had a cor, an my wife had a rdm an a brd, an we were constantly dragged along on everything even if we didnt want to go lol

[Elven]

Nah people just need to learn how to use the bard better there's already a thread alluding to that fact.

[Brightshadow]

Any ideas, concerns, or what about balance ideas?