Why is FFXIV considered to be so hard/hardcore?

[ToffeeCoffee]

The only hardcore component that applies to 2nd Coil is the artificial restrictions SE put on it through the turn/weekly lockout system.
One week you might 1-shot T6, 7 or 8 and the next week spend 4 or 5 hours stuck on one turn because 2 or more members of your static couldn't make it to the raid.

2nd Coil in and of itself isn't actually hard, what's hardcore is getting a competent (hopefully pleasant to deal with) group together every week (preferably the same 8 people so you can allocate loot, previously Sands and Oil before they became household items). Having to PUG for anything in FFXIV is the worst, I'm sick of dealing with people who pay more attention to their parsing program than what's actually happening on the screen. I'm also sick of having to party with people who rage and point the finger when things go wrong. Give me 2nd Coil, unrestricted, in solo queue Duty Finder, every day of the week so I can click J and be happy. I'm more than competent with Turn 6-8 but I just refuse to bother revolving my life around a dysfunctional static in the middle of the night, or joining a PUG group where my DPS and skill rotations get critiqued by a bunch of elitists. I'd rather join a practice group and help players who actually appreciate it.

[Electrowitch]

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One week you might 1-shot T6, 7 or 8 and the next week spend 4 or 5 hours stuck on one turn because 2 or more members of your static couldn't make it to the raid.

2nd Coil in and of itself isn't actually hard, I'm more than competent with Turn 6-8 but I just refuse to bother revolving my life around a dysfunctional static in the middle of the night, or joining a PUG group where my DPS and skill rotations get critiqued by a bunch of elitists. I'd rather join a practice group and help players who actually appreciate it.

You don´t mention T9 once but you say that Coil 2 istn hard at all. How can you know? Yes, T9 is easier than pre-nerf T5 back then but still nice of a challenge to get used to it, especially the last phase took us a bit

[ToffeeCoffee]

You don´t mention T9 once but you say that Coil 2 istn hard at all. How can you know? Yes, T9 is easier than pre-nerf T5 back then but still nice of a challenge to get used to it, especially the last phase took us a bit

I didn't mention T9 because I've never done it. My static fell to pieces (4 people quit) and I was sick of staying up til 2am on work nights waiting on late people and PUGs who didn't work out. T9 isn't the entire 2nd Coil you know, are you more leet than me for clearing it? Here's a cookie . I'm sure most statics who do T9 every week will tell you it's easy.

[PrimeEvilPanda]

You don´t mention T9 once but you say that Coil 2 istn hard at all. How can you know? Yes, T9 is easier than pre-nerf T5 back then but still nice of a challenge to get used to it, especially the last phase took us a bit

To be honest, certain instances that my friends find hard I find a breeze - Titan Ex before the Echo was my absolute favorite and I never had difficulties in it after I practiced and cleared (all in DF) many times. My friends to this day, will not touch it because they think it's hard. I think what ToffeeCoffee is pointing out that if you have the accessibility/chance to practice/try at any instance without restrictions, you WILL get to a point where the instance becomes "easy to you/second nature" and that the ONLY difficulty we face at the moment is having the LACK of accessibility to freely practice in DF.

[Electrowitch]

To be honest, certain instances that my friends find hard I find a breeze - Titan Ex before the Echo was my absolute favorite and I never had difficulties in it after I practiced and cleared (all in DF) many times. My friends to this day, will not touch it because they think it's hard. I think what ToffeeCoffee is pointing out that if you have the accessibility/chance to practice/try at any instance without restrictions, you WILL get to a point where the instance becomes "easy to you/second nature" and that the ONLY difficulty we face at the moment is having the LACK of accessibility to freely practice in DF.

If thats what he was pointing out then i got it wrong and i agree