If locked gear progression is still valued, why do sands/oil still flow free in Hunts

[Nutz]

They should just change sands/ oils to drop for every player in SCoB so a full clear always nets 2 of each per player. Yes you can get more from hunts if that's what you really want to do, but 2 of each per week would be more than enough to finish up whatever i100 gear you still have and start on another class or two. I really don't understand all this 'too soon' crap. When should they have put sands/ oils out from another source? Right after they made them functionally obsolete in 2.4?

I am quite sure one of the reason was a lot of Novus were almost completed right before 2.3 ...^^;
Seriously, the reason not doing Novus just bcoz we foresee it will be able to obtain easier later.
IMO eventually everyone will have his Novus bcoz it would be required for next upgrade.

I feel like everyone is thinking Zodiac weapons will eventually be worth having compared to faster/ better alternative, but as time progresses I feel like at best it will be a decent weapon at all times if you keep up with all of the quests, eventually making it the most grueling grind for a reasonably good weapon.

[Ddmk]

Why would anyone want to spend millions on ridiculous priced materia IV's to upgrade their weapon when in days they can get and unweathered I110 weapon?

Because in 6 months the next upgrade will be better than unweathered ...keep up with it now shorter grind later on

[madolyn]

hunts ruined the rest of the game. end of story. If they even bother to fix it, its already too late.

[Sygmaelle]

for 750 allied seals you need to kill
- 150 Rabk B
or
- 38 Rank A

if ALL Rank A and B pops in same hours and you kill em all and get full credit = 400 allied seals
then you will have to wait four hours for next pop... of course you wont see em all spawning together, and you wont be able to catch them all

but at best... it's a MINIMUM 4 hours of running + searching + fighting

As I said it took me 2 hours, by killin all A's and 3 - 4 S in the same day (did that twice). They are online tools that show at which hour mobs are supposed to spawn, and I've just used that.

[Gardes]

It's too late imo. They can't possibly roll back anything and curbing any rewards from hunts will incite yet another riot. They should just think on the next step for the next coil before piling anymore stupid moves.

Right now they should just make tome/oil/sand drops in coil drop to everyone in the coil group without rolling (meaning 8 of each per coil finish). Make these items abundant enough for everyone to not care that much and treat it as the myth to coil equivalence like in 2.0 - 2.2. We are almost to 2.4 coil jump anyway.

[Fated]

SE wants to prevent Syrcus Tower goers from getting double upgrades, but there's no problem in them farming 10 sands in a week from hunts. Makes sense, thanks for the brilliant logic.

[Adler]

Am I mistaken or do 99% of people in this thread seriously think that if SE accidentally handed out Sands of time to everyone then they should hand out everything else right now?
If someone gift you something - do you truly expect/ask the person to also give you all the other things you would want right after that?
Say thanks for what SE gave you through hunts already and shut up. Coil gear is meant to be hard earned not just spammed 24/7.

[Nyalia]

I always thought Hunts took effort to get sands/oils. Then I actually tried it. An hour of Hunting without really trying (kept trying to fish between spawns), and I still got 150 seals. And that was with missing three Bs, two As, and an S, and not getting top rewards on most of them. Also, I hit the soldiery cap from it, where it would have taken me ~3 expert dungeons to do that. It's insane.

[DeathFiend]

I think people forget that Sand and Oil is only a reagent. Not actual gear.

This means that you can stack up on Sand and Oil all you want but without an UAT or Weathered Gear, its pointless to have.
How do you get Weathered Gear and UAT... well you still have to deal with some sort of lockout. ie. 450 Solidery Tomestones per week, 1 UAT per SCOB per week, 1 UAT per ST per week.

The only reason its a problem is because people already have their gear and have to suffer with not being able to get their Weathered gear upgraded because they cant do coils.

Put it like this, those that are complaining about the Hunt system are just people that are bad at doing Coils. Meaning you want something that you dont deserve. Endgame gear is for Endgame... if you're not doing endgame then you DONT need it.


TL;DR REMOVE SAND AND OILS AND THE PROBLEM SOLVED. CASUALS DONT DESERVE ENDGAME GEAR.

[EmeraldSerenade]

I wouldn't mind if they just removed hunts all together.. The whole system breeds laziness and anger for the majority of the participants.

"Oh my god, why didn't you wait to pull?! I was eating Cereal and watching Netflix while waiting for my Linkshell to notify me of a spawn! There's a special place in hell for you!" *MultipleBlacklistsForBeingATerribleandGreedyPerson*