Everybody Hates Ramuh (and why the fight needs reworking)

[Edenholt]

Extreme primals were supposed to be a challange. Coordinate with your group and everything will be fine. And free ilvl100 jewelry and weapon from the kill is a really fair reward for a content you can just spam over and over. And dont compare Primals with hunts, please. What happened to the Hunts was an anomaly and SE didn't plan to have people stocking on sands of time on the first weekend.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

And again the rings are really good !

They are, but I honestly wouldn't mind bumping them up to i110. In 2.1, you could get a Vortex ring, a Hero's ring, or an Allagan ring; why can't we have three max-level ring choices here in 2.3?

[Sygmaelle]

Because theres already kind of a lot of options to get the main pieces at ilvl110, same for the weapons. These 100 rings are better than 110 if you wanna play without accuracy .. the healer ring is also effin sweet. Like you really think 2 mind or 2 str will make that much of a huge difference ?

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Because theres already kind of a lot of options to get the main pieces at ilvl110, same for the weapons.

No, see... There are currently TWO possible choices for i110 rings. You can unweather a soldiery ring, or you can grind T6-9 to get one (on tanks this is especially harsh since the High Allagan Ring of Fending drops from T9). In 2.1, there were THREE choices for i90 rings: you could buy a myth ring, you could grind out T1-5 to get it, -or- you could kill Garuda EX for her rings. What I'm asking is why the same system, which was perfectly fine in 2.1, isn't apparently desired here in 2.3? I remind you you can only HAVE one each of the unweeatherd soldiery rings and HA rings; if we want the same flexibility to choose two out of three rings as it stands we have to take a 2-point primary stat penalty to use a Judgment ring. (And yet it's still vastly superior for healers to do so...)

[Jasiwel]

I say leave it alone and buff the weapon drops. We finally have a Primal fight besides TitanEX that isn't a total cakewalk and requires decent mechanics to win. I can agree the weapons could be more rewarding and i100 gear is always welcome, but saying the fight needs to be remade just because it's mechanic and teamwork intensive shouldn't hold up to any proper reasoning when this is Endgame content. We've had a lot of threads recently say that the Endgame isn't difficult enough, so why nerf something that's actually difficult?

[Sygmaelle]

I say leave it alone and buff the weapon drops. We finally have a Primal fight besides TitanEX that isn't a total cakewalk and requires decent mechanics to win. I can agree the weapons could be more rewarding and i100 gear is always welcome, but saying the fight needs to be remade just because it's mechanic and teamwork intensive shouldn't hold up to any proper reasoning when this is Endgame content. We've had a lot of threads recently say that the Endgame isn't difficult enough, so why nerf something that's actually difficult?

End game isnt difficult enough ? funny how I keep readin that from people that didnt clear turn 9 yet or even entered Savage Coils. I mean, if you REALLY want to see what is under the hood just go in Savage and have a blast.

Otherwise I do agree. Don't play because of the rewards. I bet that you cant really find a Levi X farm in pf as much as it was before since 2.3 heh ?

And I agree Brine, but really, 2 points will really not make a huge difference

[mero-ix]

Nukocafe brings up a lot of good points. The rewards really aren't worth it, especially now that Hunts have taken over everything and people can get 110 gear without any skill involved. The fight would be a lot harder without voip, too, but the fight isn't that bad for melee (if they had to switch to bard they need to just get better at playing their melee class). I mean, I think at this point melee are used to having a harder time with most fights. I see drg/mnk as a class for people who are looking for more of a challenge. I did the fight on blm as well and I basically just stand in one spot the whole time, dodge a few things.

In general, I find the ex primals (except titan) boring, drawn-out fights, so I don't have much interest in them. But the whole server is doing hunts now so it's not like we need any other content anymore anyway! /sarcasm

[melflomil]

I just finished the story. A fight unforgiving like titan has me pumped. Titan is by far my favorite even though it can be frustrating.

Edit: if it is a difficult as people state it to be loot should be ilvl 105

[Lyrinn]

Edit: if it is a difficult as people state it to be loot should be ilvl 105

The fight isn't difficult. Other people are. Much of the content put out these days seems to place heavy emphasis on personal responsibility (which, by the way, I do agree on). Unfortunately, that means the average player fails at it. Go ahead and call me elitist but I'm sorry, for the same reason most people still haven't cleared T5 because one person messing up divebombs can prevent the entire group from progressing, one person messing up T7 voices, one person messing up T9 meteors, one person double or triple stacking Thunderstorms in Ramuh, can and will wipe the group.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

This doens't really have anything with the thread to do, buuut could someone please post a pic of some of the weapons that drop? I have never seen them and didn't know he dropped weapons

I know I sent a few already, but apparently Bayohne put up a dev post a week or two ago that I completely forgot about. In addition to the monk and dragoon weapons I linked screenshots of earlier, it also shows off the paladin sword/shield and the bard weapon Thunderdart.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000783.html

Neat stuff all told. Though I wouldn't say no to putting them at 105, since Levi's upgraded weapons are already i100...