Is the PS3(4?) holding back the game?

[Alukah]

Don't forget lower end PCs as well. They also designed the game to run on those. So your question should be are the PS3, PS4, and lower end PCs holding back the game.

Devs don't really take into account the lowest end of PCs, as the game grows people with bad PCs will notice their game will give more and more problems with each update, devs assume people will move on upgrading hardware, they are not held back by that.

But PS3 is different, people can't upgrade hardware so as long as it's supported they can't do major changes.

[silentwindfr]

Yoshida have already said that the ps3 after the first expansion, not right after, will surelly dropped and they will ask the people on ps3 to move up on ps4 or pc.

[Razzle]

The game is limited in some aspects by the abilities of the consoles. Take map design for example, in 1.0 it was copy pasted to have terrains repeated so the memory usage lessens, and in 2.0 it was split into many little maps and loading screens because people reasonably hated the copy paste map of 1.0.

That's why many PC exclusive MMORPGs' allow themselves to have big maps that are not copy-pasted and are unique.

TBH I think that even for the console users it would be better for the game if SE dropped the PS3 during the development of 2.0 before designing all the maps and tons of loading screens on every step.

Even when the PS3 is dropped, there is no going back, they will most likely won't change/merge or fix the map and many other core features and content that been already designed fully.

That said, sadly money talks. If SE don't make the game compatible with PS3, they will lose players (who only own that console). If they make the game compatible by putting tons of loading screens, they will not lose any players because the PS3 ones will be able to buy the game and play and the PC/PS4 ones will most likely put up with it (as we do lol). So there you have your answer lol

/toomanyloadingscreens!

[Tupsi]

Devs don't really take into account the lowest end of PCs.

Yes they do. If you followed the development of ARR at all Yoshi made it VERY CLEAR he was taking scalability into consideration, meaning lower end PCs were a part of the equation. WoW, the "main popular MMO" also takes into consideration people's toasters, hence why it was so mainstream and easy to get into.

devs assume people will move on upgrading hardware, they are not held back by that.

Offline titles, sure - However MMOs still largely play like it's 2004 despite all the hardware and technology advances.

That's why many PC exclusive MMORPGs' allow themselves to have big maps that are not copy-pasted and are unique.!

So..why do most MMOs out there have loading screens that has no console port...?

[Razzle]

So..why do most MMOs out there have loading screens that has no console port...?

Personally I don't know any MMORPG with as many loading screens, small maps size, and loading screens even inside short dungeons, that are PC exclusive.

However, I do know many PC exclusive MMORPG that have less loading screens and bigger maps size.

Terra and Aion comes to mind.

[Tupsi]

Personally I don't know any MMORPG with as many loading screens, small maps size, and loading screens even inside short dungeons, that are PC exclusive.

How many have you actually played? Pretty much the majority of them still utilize loading screens in some fashion (especially going region to region or into cities/towns) which is why people requested that SE throw in artwork for the loading screens because that's commonly found in MMOs of today (and black screen only is boring.)

[Razzle]

How many have you actually played? Pretty much the majority of them still utilize loading screens in some fashion (especially going region to region or into cities/towns) which is why people requested that SE throw in artwork for the loading screens because that's commonly found in MMOs of today (and black screen only is boring.)

I played many. Not only the majority of them have loading screens - ALL of them have loading screens. I didn't speak of just loading screens - I speak of the amount of it and the size of maps.

Loading screen is boring for me, black screen, artworks, or any other, so the less - the better. But that's just my opinion.

[Ramzal]

I've always wondered how people are so "bored" when it comes to loading screens. Uh oh, there went 10 seconds wasted of the time you are wasting playing a video game.

[Razzle]

I've always wondered how people are so "bored" when it comes to loading screens. Uh oh, there went 10 seconds wasted of the time you are wasting playing a video game.

Because loading screen + loading screen + loading screen is 30 seconds And that's minimum for a single dungeon in this game ( ' x '

[Jubez187]

PC is holding the game back more with 3rd party programs.

But for real this logic is never ending. In a sense, every XBONE game is being held back by being on XBONE instead of PS4. And every PS4 game is being held back by not being on PC. And every PC game being held back because it's not made for 2000 dollar PC's. I have a PS4 and a High-mid gaming PC. Does the game look smoother on PC, yes. Does the game run better on PC, yes. Do I play on PC? No. PS4 has a better controller (I have an external keyboard) and trophies and streaming/vid capture. So if those little trivial things are enough for me to play on the "lesser" version, then it's pretty much a toss up.


PS3 support needs to go though.