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  1. #1
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    Immut's Avatar
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 100

    Wherefore art thou Circle of Scorn

    I do not understand the purpose of this ability. It's 100 potency, with a DOT of 150 potency.

    It makes no sense in any context. It doesn't do enough enmity to matter, it's half a flash in total.

    All it does is damage, but that's not really gladiator's job at all. And even if it were, it's rather lackluster. Compare it to every damage ability in the game. Other DoTs are something you're trying to maintain at all times. Chaos Thrust, Phlebotomize, Fracture on Warrior, Touch of Death, Demolish, Everything summoner does...they're all supposed to be maintained indefinitely. Why is Circle of Scorn a DoT when you can't maintain it?

    It doesn't make sense to even be an AOE. Paladin doesn't have any AOE abilities other than Flash. Dragoon has AOE cooldowns, but they also have doom spike and ring of thorns for them to support. Same with Monk. You can't really DO anything with the AOE damage as a Paladin.

    So why does this ability even exist?
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    Remn's Avatar
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    Kizuna Astin
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    it a free 250 Total Potency attack that off-GCD. It decent Atk skill and it FREE

    PLD is more Defensive tank than WARR but that doesn't mean PLD can't do DPS. some people like to go all out def and stack Parry, but for me, I'm stacking CRIT /DET on my stuff. so any extra damage ability are welcome for me especially Off-GCD one.
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    Last edited by Remn; 07-16-2014 at 08:40 AM.

  3. #3
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    SeraviEdalborez's Avatar
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    All it does is damage, but that's not really gladiator's job at all.
    Sure, dealing damage is clearly not the job of a tank in any capacity. You should strive to do as little damage as possible because it's not your job.

    Circle of Scorn is actually one of the most potent (in terms of single use, not overall DPS contribution) oGCD attacks in the game. Off the top of my head, only Fester (300), Dragonfire Dive (250), and Power Surge'd Jump (200 x 1.5) really compare. Everything else is either 150 or less and typically has some other CC debuff tied to it. Even our WAR counterpart should be pretty envious; we get this and the (up to) 300 pot Spirits Within while they get Brutal Swing (100).
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    Alurwen's Avatar
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    Saerwen Celeste
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Yeah it does crap damage, I just use it for grabbing adds when a GCD takes too long. Of course I also use it whenever it's up besides that.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    So you complain about an off-gcd 250 potency attack dealing damage to a whole bunch of monsters ? Right...
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    I love me some CoS. Seriously, this is one of our better skills. o.O
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    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    It is THE best off gcd ability hands down.
    250pot every 25s thats also aoe and free.
    Closest thing to it is dragonfire dive thats same potency but has 180s cd.
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    You will never hold threat high lvl without it
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  9. #9
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I love me some CoS. Seriously, this is one of our better skills. o.O
    If it's so good why am I able to completely ignore it without any tangible effect?

    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    You will never hold threat high lvl without it
    Good joke mate. Yeah that extra half a flash every 25 seconds is sure noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
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    monk trying to teach carrier tanks how to play. Keep digging
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