FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[Tyrial]

Now a HUGE amount of people are using a third party app that lets you wide-scan areas to quickly find Hunt mobs.

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying by any means, but I'd just like to point out that the range for what you're talking about isn't as "wide" as you think it is. The person who created it even stated that it's only going to show mobs that are within your range of sight. So there's still plenty of leg work to be done to find Hunt Marks. You mentioning "Widescan" will make any FFXI vet assume that it shows a map wide list of mobs and their location, which this doesn't.

[Tupsi]

To be fair, SE did wait like 2+ years to ban anyone for the mass dupe glitch even though they knew it was happening and was aware of the glitch.

To be fair, SE stated they were watching the situation and even warned people who thought SE was bluffing - guess they weren't bluffing after all? If they leave it in they're not saying: "go ahead and abuse it", they pretty much waited to see who would abuse it, and sure enough you had entire linkshells getting banned and many more fragmented and some of the game's "hero's" banned, like Jackyl, was it?

[DoubleT]

SE has done something to address all of your issues that you have described here except the current because it is brand new and they havent had enough time to address it yet.

When FFXIV 2.0 started, a number of people used farming bots, that warped from group-to-group of sheep in coerthas. Even with 100s of people reporting them, they never seemed to get banned.

They were too banned. It may have not happened over night, because they had to be watched an linked to RMT an then mass-banned, but they arent there now are they. SE also increased the amount of mob spawns, so more people had a legitimate chance to farm.

With PvP a number of people used PvP bots for SIX MONTHS + with no bans.

They may have not been banned, but they made their win-trading pointless now with Frontlines. So they spent all that time win-trading for no reason. That's a pretty stiff punishment if you ask me lol.

So to say that SE does nothing to curb the cheating is pretty dumb. They just banned over 1000 accounts just 2 days ago too btw.

[KitanaiKoneko]

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying by any means, but I'd just like to point out that the range for what you're talking about isn't as "wide" as you think it is. The person who created it even stated that it's only going to show mobs that are within your range of sight. So there's still plenty of leg work to be done to find Hunt Marks. You mentioning "Widescan" will make any FFXI vet assume that it shows a map wide list of mobs and their location, which this doesn't.

This.

The other thread that showed up earlier with a screenshot of the radar in-use wasn't matched to the in-game map (I was told by a friend who tested it out briefly, they said it was the range of your minimap, which pretty much coincides with the max draw distance in game.
While I'm not trying to argue that radar should be allowed, its not anywhere near the level of brokenness that certain people are making it out to be.

[Akmzero]

To be fair, SE stated they were watching the situation and even warned people who thought SE was bluffing - guess they weren't bluffing after all? If they leave it in they're not saying: "go ahead and abuse it", they pretty much waited to see who would abuse it, and sure enough you had entire linkshells getting banned and many more fragmented and some of the game's "hero's" banned, like Jackyl, was it?

I don't remember them even warning people about the glitch. I knew some game 'heros' banned. Was a sad time. You played on Garuda with Jackyl as well?

[Tupsi]

I don't remember them even warning people about the glitch. I knew some game 'heros' banned. Was a sad time.

Yeah, was during fan festival I believe when they basically warned people not to use it or group with anyone who does since the exact way to do it you couldn't pretend not to know since you don't normally do salvage in that fashion lol. Then came January 23rd(?) 2009 that went down in history.

[Tiggy]

You think cheating to win is new? Honestly?

[Tyrial]

This.

The other thread that showed up earlier with a screenshot of the radar in-use wasn't matched to the in-game map (I was told by a friend who tested it out briefly, they said it was the range of your minimap, which pretty much coincides with the max draw distance in game.
While I'm not trying to argue that radar should be allowed, its not anywhere near the level of brokenness that certain people are making it out to be.

Exactly. It's not like people are POS hacking to the Marks. That would be cause for an uproar, this is hardly an advantage.

[Edeline]

Exactly. It's not like people are POS hacking to the Marks. That would be cause for an uproar, this is hardly an advantage.

Get a couple of FC or close friends parties standing still spreaded around the map without moving with that tool, claiming all the marks for themselves and then come back here saying this is hardly an advantage.

[Nel_Celestine]

Exactly. It's not like people are POS hacking to the Marks. That would be cause for an uproar, this is hardly an advantage.

Hardly an advantage is still an advantage.