Hunts were a terrible/irresponsible idea

[Renik]

Except again, they are.

All the server is looking for Nael right now.

They are not, that's we we are discussing, and about the weekly one, i agree, i have no idea what they were thinking, weeklies are supposed to be there for players who don't want to involve too much on the hunt, but they are actually worse than trying to share a rank S with half server in the same area.

And what i'm trying to explain is that the hunts are meant to be played by the players pursuing the monsters, not the whole server, and with that i'm mean players doing something different waiting for a shout in the ls, you can ask them to change the system, but don't say it's is broken, it's just not what you expected.

[SarcasmMisser]

Who cares how it is meant to be played, the point is this is how it is going to be played because you can't mind control a server population of tens of thousands.

Anyone with foresight could of seen this coming, but they listened to the open world whiners and showed the obvious result when you have something that is open world, not a forced pop and not claimable. The fantasy of a group of people following clues and hunting monsters just doesn't happen with this sort of scale and you can't censor people's ability to share information, you need systems in place that restrict them.

[Azurymber]

Who cares how it is meant to be played, the point is this is how it is going to be played because you can't mind control a server population of tens of thousands.

Anyone with foresight could of seen this coming, but they listened to the open world whiners and showed the obvious result when you have something that is open world, not a forced pop and not claimable. The fantasy of a group of people following clues and hunting monsters just doesn't happen with this sort of scale and you can't censor people's ability to share information, you need systems in place that restrict them.

easy solution = all hunts are rank b. and you can only get credit for one hunt per day. further, 1 hit = full points no matter what. Problem solved.

[LunarEmerald]

Lag? What lag? What kind of a rig are you running?

Used to be on PS3 and the lagfest was off and on there. I'm now plowing through everything with a PS4. Haven't had any problems since.

There was a S hunt today that kept disappearing and I'm on PS4. Neither Odin nor Behemoth disappear but this hunt did.

[SarcasmMisser]

easy solution = all hunts are rank b. and you can only get credit for one hunt per day. further, 1 hit = full points no matter what. Problem solved.

I actually thought that is how it would be with the bills posted, but you can just go around and get insane rewards for a limitless number of marks. It's really broken I didn't imagine they would just put this sort of stuff on tap.

[Renik]

My last post because i'm tired, just remove sands and oils from hunts, make them drop in CT or EX primals, problem solved.

That way you could say it in LS and get your friends to help you, because only those interested in having fun hunting will show.

You're asking for a rework now, more HP, attk, w/e, but once they implement new gear turning the sands and oils into something from the past, you'll have to fight monsters with lots of HP with only 5-10 players, then everyone will ask for a nerf.

[SarcasmMisser]

I actually agree with that, one of the factors that makes this a perfect storm of bad design is that the rewards are items for bis gear, there would be no where near the drive to exploit this to hell if it wasn't the path of least resistance to the best gear.

But so many people actually requested that, they wanted open world stuff with good rewards. I agree that it would be nice if it was just there for people who love dangerous open world monsters, but in reality there are few that would enjoy doing it for the sake of it, and when I read all these requests on these forums all I see is a thinly veiled gimmie gear.

[Raist]

My last post because i'm tired, just remove sands and oils from hunts, make them drop in CT or EX primals, problem solved.

That way you could say it in LS and get your friends to help you, because only those interested in having fun hunting will show.

You're asking for a rework now, more HP, attk, w/e, but once they implement new gear turning the sands and oils into something from the past, you'll have to fight monsters with lots of HP with only 5-10 players, then everyone will ask for a nerf.

Actually don't think that would necessarily be a bad thing. Would be cool to have a throwback to the old XI Land King type of mob... well, minus all the drama that went with claiming it.

As I posted in another thread... they should take some cues from how they eventually managed this in XI. Forced spawns, multiple spawn points with a cool-down spread out to thin out the big fustercluck mobs of people camping the spawn points. Maybe even throw in a mechanism to lock them to the party/alliance that spawned them so that everyone stood a better chance of getting credit?

I could even go for it being instanced for that matter (old-school BCNM/KSNM style arena perhaps).


Just rambling... but there are so many ways they could have handled this better out the gate.

[Kuroyasha]

.....I like the hunts....

[Azurymber]

I just ported to an S rank. took like 3 min to zone..... THREE MIN. by the time i got there it was dead.