SMN's Egi Appearances ~ one final, humble request

[Parz3val]

I'd still rather they made us be actual Final Fantasy summoners...

I mean, I can see having to fill out our arsenal so I'm not opposed to being primarily a Pet Class with DoT's for DPS...

But I get your point & agree to an extent.

Having a "low-magic cost sustained summon" (e.g. Egi, not much 'magic energy' to keep active) makes sense.

Summoning a god-like primal or giant aetheric being should be exhaustive, short-term.

So my hope is eventually we have the ability to personally summon greater deities for a time... 3 minutes perhaps, 9 min CD or so.

This would be a great way to further include Diabolos or Siren etc.

Even our LB could convert to Fat Chocobo, Madeen, Knights of the Round, etc.

[ruinedmirage]

Somehow, I doubt this thread will be the "final humble request" we get. By the way, where's all the SCH "make my fairy blow up doll size!" threads?

I agree, it's best that they left some room for egi improvement to one-up themselves in later expansions, rather than caving in to "give it to me NOW!" threads. It's like no one has any foresight into what could happen or no patience to see how badass the job could be or imagination to realize that this MIGHT NOT be the final incarnation of the SMN's ability, or even any faith in SE ... at all.

On the other hand, when money is on the line, I wouldn't want to fork over 3 years of membership in hope that something MIGHT get better...

[NorthernLadMSP]

I agree they all (minus Carbuncle) could use some improvement. The worst is Garuda, though. I don't understand why they took primal of wind, four-winged, harpy looking Garuda and made her into a slime yellow dragon.

[KingOfAbyss]

Y'know I never speak up in these threads, but everyone seems to forget a major reason to keep them small and a little boring right now.

Room for expansion.

That is to say, if the game goes on long enough and the Summoner class is expanded upon in updates to come Square Enix will want room to make the summons cooler and more interesting at higher levels. So keeping it simple here during the early days keeps them from having to play a game of one-ups-manship against themselves everytime they want to upgrade things a bit.

One day you might have the ability to have Titan-Egi 'hulk' out and use Rage of the Earth for high, cool-looking AE damage for example. But if you have a big badass titan by your side now, that won't be so special if you do get it.

Hey now that's something we have overlooked, I like that Idea!

But AFAIR, They had to lessen the impact on the servers (once again) and the 'lore' was the marketing answer to it.

Since they are reusing everything close to borderline boring, (normal mode, hard mode, extreme mode, fatality mode, out-of-this-world mode), it would be fitting to give them a new life by expanding them, giving them a new skill and increase their size a bit.

Man, I like that!

[MageBlack]

To the OP and people who keep bringing this up:

Please, I hope you will stick to "This is the final request"

The Egi isnt even the summon, its just the essence of the Primals. These egi bear many characteristics of the respective Primal, but lack the personality or aether draining properties of full scale forms. After all, Arent we trying to STOP the beast tribes from summoning them because they are destroying the planet every time they do so?

I really wish more would be said from the Dev team about the FC Primal Summoning system they talked about many many moons ago. Basically, the actual summoning will be done on a much grander scale, you will actually summon the full version of the summon;

in such a way that the whole server will know when its been done. Summoning Ifrit will darken the skies red and this will signal to the other players that the primal is once again available for recapture.

That was an iirc quote but the original quote (which I cant find atm) talked about the Primals wandering the open world and to gain the right to summon it your Free Company needs to be the one to take it down. Once taken down your Company will need to gain affinity with it for a one time massive attack. If the Company does not use it within a certain time frame, it will be released once again.

This still ties in with plans that Yoshi-P and Co. might have. I saw a recent interview where Yoshi-P was talking about 3.0 and how the same kind of massive event that ended 1.0 will once again be happening (just not a destruction of the world) that could be the releasing of the primals from summoning and control.

I can sympathize that you want something a little bigger and more prominent, I've seen many of these posts before, but I hated FFXI cause the summons were constantly in the way of things. The size and detail they are at currently are fine. I truly hope people actually read my post instead of it just getting buried. Either that or have Yoshi-P actually comment on it himself so people can finally quit complaining about half of a system.

[Parz3val]

My takeaway is just a tad bigger would be ideal & redo Garuda Egi.

With very minor increased scale, I think very minor detail/texture improvement across the board wouldn't hurt.

Less booger/chicken/mallow jokes, more awesomeness.

Great bonus idea imo: ground Titan.

I personally think grounding Ifrit would be awesome too, let Levi & Ramuh Egi's float.

I love the way Ifrit Primal crawls around like a fearsome Reptile, his Egi should emulate that.

[Jamez82]

I'm curious why we are called summoners when we're not even "summoners".

It's stupid.

[Anapingofness]

I've always felt that the Egi's looked creepy ~_~;;.
Now I realize that they look the way they do because they are a fraction of a Primal's power and I am perfectly ok with that.
I just wish that they looked like a less creepy fraction of a Primal's power, lol! XD

[Kio]

I don't mind the size of the egi's, but I also do not like the design (sorry to the artists out there!). Even the lore surrounding them does not make sense to me or feel right.

As we progress through the entire game Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan are your enemies. The world's enemies. Something to be feared, avoided, and destroyed. Yet... they are also our companions and battle partners and worst of all your pets? It feels strange and off even if it's explained away as only being a small borrowing of their power. I wish we had different pets similar to Eos, Selene, and Carbuncle that are your allies from the start and you feel a kinship toward them. There are dozens of summons throughout the history of the franchise I'm sure they could have picked any one of them to be compatible with the concept.

[Blackcanary]

As long as we are asking for stuff, Carbuncle Glamor pretty please SE?

Yea i would be fine to have all my summons look like Carbuncle just different colored to much what primal its coming from. And if Fenrir becomes a primal just give us a Fenrir egi same size and feel like Carbuncle. Not something that looks like gone of candy. And then we could use Fenrir as a Mount and he would grow in size every time we summon him as a mount so we can ride him loool.