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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    You should prepare your flame shield.

    While i can buy a ticket i can't travel to london, las vegas or tokyo, so it's not fair at all, it better be something stupid and ulgy or SE will have problems, this is not like the dalamud minion, lightning items, or collector edition items.
    They could just as well be held some place you could attend, and others would have difficulty with. Pretty sure there are people who will be going who have made sacrifices in order to do so, fair play to them.
    I doubt I'll be attending, but I stand by my opinion that whatever they give out should be exclusive to those that are fortunate enough to attend in person. Same goes for the forum contest prizes and Lightning event gear. Exclusive is exclusive, and people want it to stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    They could just as well be held some place you could attend, and others would have difficulty with. Pretty sure there are people who will be going who have made sacrifices in order to do so, fair play to them.
    I doubt I'll be attending, but I stand by my opinion that whatever they give out should be exclusive to those that are fortunate enough to attend in person. Same goes for the forum contest prizes and Lightning event gear. Exclusive is exclusive, and people want it to stand out.
    It's not the same, the items i listed were obtained or can be obtained by everyone in equal conditions, or at least for a reasonable amount of money, the ticked is expensive enough but it's still feasible, but if it requires physical attendance the cost is ridiculously higher, some ppl have familiar responsibilities, jobs, money problems, those are RL problems or responsibilities affecting your virtual experience by giving these fortunate ppl an unfair advantage in order to acquire virtual goods, and don't say it'll just be vanity, because for some ppl this game is about vanity as much as it is about battle.

    Personally i don't care about the item, unless it's something i want desperately, don't think so, but this is an important matter for some ppl and SE will have to respond sooner or later, remember you can't toss the word exclusivity so easily when you're charging money for a service.

    They have to give the playerbase a fair way to obtain it, even if only a few can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    They have to give the playerbase a fair way to obtain it, even if only a few can.
    They have - Buy a ticket, attend the event. Everyone has the opportunity to do so, but only a relative few can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    They have - Buy a ticket, attend the event. Everyone has the opportunity to do so, but only a relative few can.
    I don't understand why do they call this discussion when ppl is not willing to listen and discuss others' opinions, if i give you reasons to state what in my opinion is fair, you can't just say "no you're wrong" because that's the meaning of your post.

    Seriously if you wanna discuss, counter my argument with a better one not with a rant response.

    In case you have not understood my post, you can't give something that affects others' in-game experience based on IRL capabilities and call it fair, this is a P2P game, and RL capabilities should never give you "exclusivity" over an in-game item, before replying this post i advice you to read this and my previous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
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    OK for a start I'm not ranting, just expressing my opinion. Second, don't patronise me and say I just don't get it - I read and understood your post fully thanks, I just don't agree with you.
    I find it quite amusing though that you don't understand why I I'm not willing to listen to your opinion. What you really mean is you can't understand why I'm not changing my stance after you've said your piece.
    People have their own opinion, that's why. People don't agree on stuff, fact of life. Your opinion, my opinion - in this scenario that's all they are.
    What's to discuss? You don't think its fair people who go to these events get exclusive in game items, I think it is. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    OK for a start I'm not ranting, just expressing my opinion. Second, don't patronise me and say I just don't get it - I read and understood your post fully thanks, I just don't agree with you.
    I find it quite amusing though that you don't understand why I I'm not willing to listen to your opinion. What you really mean is you can't understand why I'm not changing my stance after you've said your piece.
    People have their own opinion, that's why. People don't agree on stuff, fact of life. Your opinion, my opinion - in this scenario that's all they are.
    What's to discuss? You don't think its fair people who go to these events get exclusive in game items, I think it is. End of story.
    Then you're missing the point, to discuss you have to listen, i just can't understand why are you on disagree, because you're not giving me reasons other than it should be exclusive because you want it that way.

    I will assume you want it that way because you don't care about the item (the other reasons are because you care and you can and will go, or you care but you're just trolling), then leave this thread alone.

    One more thing, i think the item should be earned like an event or contest reward, i actually disagree with selling it in the mogstation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Then you're missing the point, to discuss you have to listen, i just can't understand why are you on disagree, because you're not giving me reasons other than it should be exclusive because you want it that way.
    Again, I'm not missing the point - I have listened,I understand your frustration in not being able to obtain this I just don't agree with you
    You are the one who "can't understand" why I disagree, then it's you who is missing the point, not I. You also claim I'm not listening, and I haven't given a reason why it should be exclusive. Take a look at yourself mate, you aren't listening, I stated a reason - it's a special reward for those who have made the effort to get themselves to that event in person ( some of whom will have made sacrifices in order to get there)

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    I will assume you want it that way because you don't care about the item (the other reasons are because you care and you can and will go, or you care but you're just trolling), then leave this thread alone.
    You can assume what you like, it doesn't make it fact. I would love whatever this special item is, for reasons I've already stated previously - its exclusive, it makes you stand out etc.

    Why should I leave this thread alone? I'm trolling because I disagree with you? No. This thread is petitioning for an exclusive item to be added some other way than attending the live events, I disagree. If someone started a petition thread to add cars into the game I would express my view on that too, its no different.

    Judging by the other posts on this thread I'm not alone on this matter. You just need to get your head around the fact that other people won't always share the same view as you, and if you don't understand that, that's your problem.
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