I need a honest opinion about the Atma drop rate......

[Razzle]

OP I understand your pain, wish I could help :X

At this point, if I were you, I'd either quit the game from frustration, or in my case, because I really like the game (or other aspects of it), I'd drop hunting for this weapon until its nerfed (and it will, because I don't see this same requirment in 1 year when we will have Super Novus Atma Multiple Power Thyrus out ) And go for another weapon until then.

Wish you good luck!

[Urielparadox]

I had under 200 fates when I started atma. when I finished atma phase I had 1245. Seven of my atma where obtained between 1000-1245 fates. 300 fates later 0 alexandrite. One of my FC mates. Start atma at around 800 fates. Finished around 1300(500), and then within 200 more fates got 7 alexandrite. An ok tank got all 12 atma in 8 hours, the first day. While RNG is ok and great. Their should always be some kind of clause that prevents this large of a discrepancy. Players who fit in the extremely above avg section(like my fc mate) don't believe other people, who spend all this time for nothing unless they see it. I mean there are people in this thread who don't believe you can break 800 fates and not get all 12 atma and I was at 800 fates and only 4 atma, I know people at 1k+ fates with 1-2 atma. I also know people with 400 fates and all 12 atma. It shows nothing to a players skill, dedication, or anything. It's just here something to keep you busy,

[Nadrojj]

Oh yeah reckoning day!

Since the OP created his thread i farmed my last 3 atma and did seven books to get my animus sword. Working on my 8th book for my shield right meow.

[TeaTimeBear]

I had under 200 fates when I started atma. when I finished atma phase I had 1245. Seven of my atma where obtained between 1000-1245 fates. 300 fates later 0 alexandrite. One of my FC mates. Start atma at around 800 fates. Finished around 1300(500), and then within 200 more fates got 7 alexandrite. An ok tank got all 12 atma in 8 hours

I'm almost at 1k and still at 4. I just don't know anymore..

[Haibel]

I had under 200 fates when I started atma. when I finished atma phase I had 1245.

Here's my problem with using hard numbers. Up to 3000 fates, we can see when you hit certain milestones. Don't take this as
me calling you a lair. I am not. But if you post hard numbers you should have your achievements made public. It just lends creditability to
your statement. In your case, you would have 2 fate achievements since the patch that brought Atma weapons in the game. Having this info
we give light to how long it takes to get an atma, However it wouldn't be a true picture, just a general idea.

[Urielparadox]

to all my knowledge my achievements are publicly viewable, since I thought any would be able to go and check, so I would gladly open those up if you could tell me how.. The amount of time to finish the number of fates is all up to the person and server, i'm not saying the OP's number's are believable, I'm just saying that to allow some people to finish 3x atma weapons in the the same number of fates it takes someone else to get all 12 is a bit extreme and there should be some kind of balance in place. IE every 200 fates in a row without an atma you can go get a random free one, of any of the 12 meaning you could get one you already have. This at least gives players an incentive to continue to work on the weapon, and helps create balance with those that got all 12 in less then 600 fates(as they would never be able to use the feature).

[JayCommon]

I hereby challenge someone to record video of fate grinding for 10 hours straight and no atma. I'll admit I'm skeptical - but if this insanely bad luck curse is indeed accurate and someone has spent 10 hours of "actively" participating in all possible fates and can't get an atma drop than maybe SE would be more inclined to accelerate any drop rate adjustment (if an actual video exists).

Wish I could, but I got my Atma weapon on the first weekend of 2.1 and didn't record anything...

Even with my good luck I still spent 9hrs straight in Central Thanalan before I got my drop. In my video you would have seen me group with 57 different people who all got their Atma from C. Than before me. I was almost about to give up at 4am, and I finally got it. I think I screamed in /shout for C. Than to do indescribable things to itself...




But no one heard me. They had already gotten their atma ;-;

[Zarzak]

OP your luck REALLY sucks. Or the RNG gods hate you for your past deeds.


But to share my own observations.

IMO the zone swapping/time/etc is all a bunch of BS and does nothing but give people the false sense of control.

In my experience you should average about 1 atma every 40-50 fates.

Myself and 2 other FC members started farming atma on the 5th or 6th of June (I started a tracking grid on our forums on the 7th... and that was only a day or 2 after we actually started)

Since then I personally have done about 900 fates. One of the other guys has done prolly around 750 (a couple days at 1st I was in the right mood to sit and do FATES for hours). The 3rd guy was late to the party so I'd say hes done around 400-500 fates.

So between the 3 of us we have done ~2000 fates

Total atma count = 67.

For the record a VAST majority of these have been done while mostly afk. We sit in vent chat play other games and have FFXIV up in the background sitting in 1 fate. Have "play sounds in background" option checked and we can hear when the fate spawns. We tab in tag the fate and let our chocobos and pets do 90% of the work (we play sch/sch/smn for this so the double eos keep us alive and the garuda helps dps). Tab in 3-4 times throughout the next 10 minutes to hit a macro that casts all our dots on our target.

Just to be transparent. I'm saying "about" because I'm not home right not to look at my achievement for the exact number. But I started at right about 1400 and yesterday when I checked I was somewhere in the 2300s (we all put out fate count in our comment on vent at the start of the day to see how many we do. Average is around 25-30 for most fates. And around 60-70 for "quest fates".. the CT fates, and in particular the southern thanalan one, are AMAZING for this)

[Xairos]

I came up with a thread about how stuff like atma in the future should be purchase-able from a large exp-currency system. Like bonus levels past cap can be used for atma stones. So you are always making progress by just playing since its casual anyway.

[Haibel]

I posted how to make achievements viewable earlier in this thread. for myself it took me the better part of a month to get my atma weapon.
BUT, I only did maybe 3 big fate grinds. the rest of the time I spent no more than an hour and a half on any given attempt to farm atma.
The most atma's I gained in any one attempt is 3. I also had back to back atma's of the same type twice. I think maiden and archer.
The major point I'd like to make is that this grind is what you make it out to be. If you look at when I got the tier 4 fate achievement and
when I got my first animus, which was the shield, it was like 23 days. In 41 days from the patch I did between 12 and 700 fates. there's no way for me
to know for sure. Assuming all fates lasted the full time, that would mean I spent 175 hours farming at an avg of 4.26 hours a day doing it.
4.26 is damn near my regular play time average.

This is also nowhere near how much time I put in. It was around 1.5 hours a day on farming and probably 450 fates total which the largest portion of that spent in
C. Thal where it took me a good 17 hours to get that one atma.