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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dekken View Post
    Might be a better idea to fix the game as content is added before making it more difficult to carry out simple tasks.
    10 pts to Dekken
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  2. #262
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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusprime View Post
    There are two types of people of the forum. The ones that hate or want to dictate how others play and the ones that don't care what others do once they are not subjected to changes that would affect their gaming.

    Leaving anima in the game is not stupid or does not make the alternative methods of traveling useless. If you personally hate teleporting then simply STOP TELEPORTING. Its that simple. No one should dictate how or when someone should teleport because quite frankly that is none of your concern. If you feel that it would ruin the game because someone else is enjoying the luxury of teleporting then you need to re-evaluate yourself.
    While I agree it's wrong to dictate what others do, I'm thinking more about the game it's self rather than myself. I make games for a living, so it's not like I'm completely clueless about how games work and what they should and should not have.

    And while I wish you were right in saying that if you don't like teleporting, then don't use it, but this is not how the human mind works (unfortunately) so as logical as it may sound, it doesn't work that way. Teleporting is there, and knowing this makes walking travelling the old fashioned way seem less of an achievement.

    Let me run this through you; you're meeting up with some friends in a land far away from you, to start an epic quest. You set out on your way, you run into some trouble, aggros and such that you fight off bravely, then you set out, you discover new scenery that you never knew about before, and it's something you'll have to come back to later to find out about, because your friends are awaiting your arrival. So you continue on down the path and eventually you get there. You say hello to your friends, then tell them about your adventure on the way, about how your fought off wild beasts with your might, and how you made pretty good time to get here so fast. At this point, one of your friends say to you "k, you shoulda teleported here, woulda been less hassle". How do you feel then? like all of what you just achieved is now pointless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Make friends with players who play when you do, and you won't run out of people to play with until you are done playing.
    I had a lot of friends on this game. As the weeks go on a lot of them stopped playing. My linkshell went from having anywhere from 20-30 people online to 1 or 2. Now thats just 1 LS. Picture how many other ls's are going through it and those are your numbers for where this game is heading. Like I said. I do enjoy XIV. I believe and hope someday soon it will succeed but as days go on more and more are leaving. and its just not looking good. =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusprime View Post
    10 pts to Dekken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    Im wondering how you could have possibly replied if you didn't understand.
    Again you are incapable of sticking to the point at hand. ***waits for another unrelated reply***
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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusprime View Post
    Again you are incapable of sticking to the point at hand. ***waits for another unrelated reply***
    I no longer wish to entertain your tomfoolery. You are a quest that cannot be completed. You are content that I wish was removed from this forum. You are simply the kind of person I do not like seeing in my entire life because you refuse to ahh forget it i don't even want to finish this sentence. I suggest you stop asking me questions or engaging me in conversation because I will no longer reply to your post, they are asinine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    At this point, one of your friends say to you "k, you shoulda teleported here, woulda been less hassle". How do you feel then?
    Like I just wasted half of the game time they have to play on my solo adventuring after we all planned to adventure together on a specific quest.

    So next time, I won't waste their game time after we plan to adventure together and go adventure with them instead of solo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    While I agree it's wrong to dictate what others do, I'm thinking more about the game it's self rather than myself. I make games for a living, so it's not like I'm completely clueless about how games work and what they should and should not have.

    And while I wish you were right in saying that if you don't like teleporting, then don't use it, but this is not how the human mind works (unfortunately) so as logical as it may sound, it doesn't work that way. Teleporting is there, and knowing this makes walking travelling the old fashioned way seem less of an achievement.

    Let me run this through you; you're meeting up with some friends in a land far away from you, to start an epic quest. You set out on your way, you run into some trouble, aggros and such that you fight off bravely, then you set out, you discover new scenery that you never knew about before, and it's something you'll have to come back to later to find out about, because your friends are awaiting your arrival. So you continue on down the path and eventually you get there. You say hello to your friends, then tell them about your adventure on the way, about how your fought off wild beasts with your might, and how you made pretty good time to get here so fast. At this point, one of your friends say to you "k, you shoulda teleported here, woulda been less hassle". How do you feel then? like all of what you just achieved is now pointless?
    I first want to say: props to you for being able to disagree with someone without turning it into a battle of insults. I think we'd be more productive as a forum if we were able to discuss like this more often.

    That being said I spend a lot of time running in this game and I have to say that awesomely poetic description of traveling is pretty far from a typical travel. There are some nice looking areas, but there is guaranteed to be nothing there. The world is empty. So It's usually just holding up on the control stick/arrow key for 10-15 minutes while genuinely not having fun. At least in all of my experiences it is.

    I definitely agree that the game should have a sense of accomplishment, but I'm not sure that it should be coming from traveling, I'd much rather get that from completing certain quests, or getting special items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    While I agree it's wrong to dictate what others do, I'm thinking more about the game it's self rather than myself. I make games for a living, so it's not like I'm completely clueless about how games work and what they should and should not have.

    And while I wish you were right in saying that if you don't like teleporting, then don't use it, but this is not how the human mind works (unfortunately) so as logical as it may sound, it doesn't work that way. Teleporting is there, and knowing this makes walking travelling the old fashioned way seem less of an achievement.

    Let me run this through you; you're meeting up with some friends in a land far away from you, to start an epic quest. You set out on your way, you run into some trouble, aggros and such that you fight off bravely, then you set out, you discover new scenery that you never knew about before, and it's something you'll have to come back to later to find out about, because your friends are awaiting your arrival. So you continue on down the path and eventually you get there. You say hello to your friends, then tell them about your adventure on the way, about how your fought off wild beasts with your might, and how you made pretty good time to get here so fast. At this point, one of your friends say to you "k, you shoulda teleported here, woulda been less hassle". How do you feel then? like all of what you just achieved is now pointless?
    First, if you enjoy the journey and had fun walking/running to location why does it matter what others think? I definitely wouldn't feel it was pointless if I had fun doing it.

    Besides that, there is absolutely nothing worth looking forward to on your journeys in this game. Its the same boring desolate terrain each and everytime. Like I have mention before, things that you see on your journey in this game that is interesting all leads to nothing. But besides that, if gamers felt that they were missing out by not exploring, they would quickly gain an interest in exploring the world and see all of those sites (which doesn't exist in the game) that you talk about. In addition to that, the scenario that you mention would only occur once on that specific path and allowing gamers to teleport if they chose to after taking that wonderful journey is the joy of having options.

    As a game maker you should understand that options are key to a game being successful especially in a genre like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    I no longer wish to entertain your tomfoolery. You are a quest that cannot be completed. You are content that I wish was removed from this forum. You are simply the kind of person I do not like seeing in my entire life because you refuse to ahh forget it i don't even want to finish this sentence. I suggest you stop asking me questions or engaging me in conversation because I will no longer reply to your post, they are asinine.
    Well done. I am not disappointed by your ability to avoid the topic at hand. Again, well done.
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