WHM vs. SCH -- What is the basic difference.

[DarkLordCthulhu]

In my group, sch never uses stoneskin. Why wouldn't the whm just use it for the big incoming attacks like Ravensbeak? Other than that and some other situations (like adds incoming etc and you need to keep aggro down), you don't need a stoneskin. Plus whm ss is greater by 8pp. The sch shouldn't waste mp on a ss; save it for an adlo reapply if anything.

Thats why I said in most fights. I agree with you that WHM should be using SS to mitigate those big attacks like Death Sentence and what now. You also stated that in your group the WHM is responsible for SS so Im assuming you run with a static. I pug alot and outside of the pre fights buffs i rarely see WHM use stone skin during the fight. Not even when they know mountain buster is coming.

The only fight ive seen WHM keeping up stone skin is Levi ex cause of the debuff received when healing the ot. I'll keep using that trial as an example since ive been farming so much, and have yet to see a mirror T.T
Both healers know that we will be getting hit my whirlpool soon. WHM wont take the time/mana cost to SS. However I (SCH) can SS both healers while still healing with Eos. I also SS healers/MT and that Derp DPS thats cant dodge while Levi is doing dives. If need be can energy drain + aetherflow and boom, back to full MP.

So yea SS should be WHM for those hard hitting boss moves cause of that extra 8% mitigation. I was just saying SCH can be more liberal with our SS use. Cause of personal experience i guess i feel it should be the SCH responsibility since i dont see WHM doing it.

[Okashii]

I was just saying SCH can be more liberal with our SS use. Cause of personal experience i guess i feel it should be the SCH responsibility since i dont see WHM doing it.

Again, why would you be using stoneskin instead of adlo unless maybe you just wanted to adlo->swift+stoneskin for some extra mitigation perhaps? Adlo has a chance at crit+double shield while stoneskin is percentage of max hp. Yeah, the whm shouldnt be using stoneskin too much anyways, just on some occasions. But for a sch it's just better to use adlo. and in that situation you mentioned, if you are getting stoneskin up on both of those tanks I hope you are also getting adlo on them. and in that case Im pretty sure some of that would have fallen off. It just seems a bit senseless.

and since stoneskin scales on the max hp of whoever it is cast on, there really arent a whole lot of situations where you want to spend time in battle applying stoneskin to healers and dd's. if you have that much time, DPS. Better to use succor and DPS than spend forever getting stoneskin up, usually. Or if you feel you must, just use adlo. On lower HP classes, since adlo doesnt scale on max hp, it should be worth quite a bit more, especially a crit. These arent real numbers but a 9k hp tank adlo'd for a 800 shield would be stoneskinned for 900 but a caster with 5k hp with a 800 adlo shield would have only been stoneskinned for 500. And even in the tank example if stoneskin were worth more in ehp, why use it when the difference is going to be minimal, the cast time longer, and no chance to crit for a double shield?

[DarkLordCthulhu]

Again, why would you be using stoneskin instead of adlo unless maybe you just wanted to adlo->swift+stoneskin for some extra mitigation perhaps?

Yes this right here. During that part of levi i ss myself, swiftcast ss my fellow healer, then adlo myself, and then either adlo fellow healer or go back to the tank. Maybe i just get over zealous when it comes to mitigating damage. Its just so satisfying knowing that an attack that should hit u for 1k+ is doing 0 damage =P and still leaving behind part of the adlo/ss shield