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  1. #41
    Player
    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I transferred from one of the primal server worlds and had to adjust to having the dragon tanked in the middle. With the dragon pulled north there didn't need to be any organization of alliances. Tanks just pulled whatever skeletons straight back. If one of the skeletons was killed in the wrong spot it never got killed fast enough to avoid an aoe so it isn't like this was some way of compensating for messing up. With the dragon in the center each alliance takes two spokes and everyone is in range of their healers. We'd also run skeletons in front of the dragon if needed and silence the conal aoe. Both stats work fine. The problem with doing the center method on primal, however, is the alliances won't know to organize in groups and you're bound to have skeletons killed in the wrong place. It's not your fault there was a wipe, but on primal I'd just stick with what everyone knows or you will have to reteach it to every group you run with.
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  2. #42
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    SabbaNoergi's Avatar
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    Sabba Noergi
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I've recently switched to Primal, but I haven't done CT there yet. Where I'm originally from though, it was always tanked in the middle. This tanking to North is a new concept to me.
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    Last edited by SabbaNoergi; 06-17-2014 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Typo

  3. #43
    Player Killabye's Avatar
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    Killabye Strife
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Strat? This is ct, the joke run. Main problem in ct? Noobs and trolls. Force the win. Period.
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  4. #44
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    Killabye Strife
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 50
    And when I tank ct, haven't for a few months lol, we survive. If another tank tries to take aggro and is screwing up I'll take it from him and win it. But the melee and the healers..... Your healers heal you, your melee stays with dragon, not too hard a concept. Sure they run through the poison, drg jumps, bard has arrows, the only two players who can't att are the pug (who cares) and the tanks (not dps). Sure tank it in the middle, lemme know how that went after 5 runs. It's a super simple idea, op is asking what the tank should do. Tank defends his party and runs the raid. Lions don't bother with the plans of sheep
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  5. #45
    Player Killabye's Avatar
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    Killabye Strife
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Have you seen my Lost City Bard-tank vid? I can do it, rather easily I might add, but it's quite impractical.

    But hey, if it works for some, so be it.
    An archer telling the tank what his job is... Hmmm. Bet a lot of tanks "rage" quit on you. You can tank? Really? So you chose a less in charge class out of generosity? Like I said in my last post, lions don't bother with the plans of sheep. If you wanted the main role, the leader role, the defender role, do it yourself or quit criticizing. You're a bard lol, you have no say
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  6. #46
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    Poringing's Avatar
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    Yari Lanza
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 50
    So, the conclusion we got from this discussion is: <drum rolls>

    Primal data center is weird.
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  7. #47
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    Raeanya's Avatar
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    Raeanya Ashurke
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Poringing View Post
    So, the conclusion we got from this discussion is: <drum rolls>

    Primal data center is weird.
    Yes. I actually suggested during a multi-wipe run that the tank try the center and was scoffed at. Everyone seemed to say that they had never seen the dragon tanked in the center. We then proceeded to wipe 2 more times.
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  8. #48
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Killabye View Post
    And when I tank ct, haven't for a few months lol, we survive. If another tank tries to take aggro and is screwing up I'll take it from him and win it. But the melee and the healers..... Your healers heal you, your melee stays with dragon, not too hard a concept. Sure they run through the poison, drg jumps, bard has arrows, the only two players who can't att are the pug (who cares) and the tanks (not dps). Sure tank it in the middle, lemme know how that went after 5 runs. It's a super simple idea, op is asking what the tank should do. Tank defends his party and runs the raid. Lions don't bother with the plans of sheep
    My 6 month tanking CT with dragon in the middle each time, with a grand total of 0 wipe (on 1st boss. Somehow, KB is a roadblock for ~10% of the groups) would have a word with your theory.


    oh and :
    the only two players who can't att are the pug (who cares) and the tanks (not dps).
    With that mind of yours, you are an horrible tank (as you don't allow your party to exploit its full potential by your placement Worse, you intentionally ignore one job).
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  9. #49
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    Volxima's Avatar
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    Volx Imha
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    #1 reason why center-tanking is superior: the off-tanks can combo off the boss and have a RoH/BB ready when the adds spawn. Voke+Lob has failed me too many times to ever fully trust it again.
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  10. #50
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    I really don't understand why changing strategy is trouble them this much,
    the mechanics are really simple,
    1. Kill Skellies as far as possible from Dragon,
    2. Don't kill Skellies close to each other.
    3. Dps to not steal aggro before tank bring Skellies in place.

    All I can think of is, they are dumb....
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