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  1. #21
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    Welcome to a week ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaide View Post
    Glad for more confirmation from Yoshi P. When I started my thread asking when it was going to be fixed - I got flamed all the way around by people telling it was working fine and that I should stop whining. Some people automatically get defensive when they know they're exploiting something whether anyone accuses them of wrongdoing or not. People were accusing me of failing to 'prove' it was broken. Come on people! That's common sense.
    I started a thread a LONG time ago about this, pretty sure it was before your thread by a long ways. I was roundly flamed as well.
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    old news....
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    This was said and translated over a week ago, did you have to open a new topic?
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    The huge SP gains coming from failed leves had NERF written all over it since day one. I mean, I'm all for gaining large amounts of SP every chance I get so of course I fail my leves, but I'd be pretty shocked if even one person were surprised by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibe View Post
    The reason I didn't like it was because it was obviously a broken system. I want the system fixed, it doesn't have anything to do with me wanting people to play the same way I do. I want a better game.

    And the reason people do it is because the system is broken, once they fix it even the people that do it will be happy. Your thread comes off as a "haha told you so" No one disputed the fact that it was a flawed system, the only thing diputed was the fact that it wasn't against the rules. If in the first place SE made all the leves equal in reward it would have never gone the route it did. Blame SE not the players that canceled leves.

    Edit: I just read the rest of the thread, I get that you get it now.
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    Last edited by Krausus; 07-08-2011 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    And the reason people do it is because the system is broken, once they fix it even the people that do it will be happy. Your thread comes off as a "haha told you so" No one disputed the fact that it was a flawed system, the only thing diputed was the fact that it wasn't against the rules. If in the first place SE made all the leves equal in reward it would have never gone the route it did. Blame SE not the players that canceled leves.
    Many, many people disputed the fact that it was a broken system, both to me personally and to other people on the forums. Reading above, you can see a post from Jaide where he says that people were accussing him of failing to prove the system was broken.

    Awhile back I started a thread asking if the development team would make a statement, and I was roundly flamed. There are a handful of people who were avid leve failers, who from the start would admit that it shouldn't be that way, but for the most part now you just have people changing their tune because they see it is for sure going away now.
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    It's the same mentality that killed Lord British. Unfortunately, SE can't expect players to play like adults - it's more like trying to control a cage of starving wild boars. I'm not too worried about it. Everyone has that little voice in the back of their mind. Some choose to listen to it, some choose to make excuses for their behavior.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme View Post
    Derp. What a surprise. Bending the rules of a half-brained system is not OK, even if it's not "against the rules".

    Some people, I swear.
    people are going to do what is best for them no matter what...a system that rewards intentionally failing is not the players' fault; it is the developers. this should have fixed a long time ago, however i am going to keep on failing until it is fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibe View Post
    Many, many people disputed the fact that it was a broken system, both to me personally and to other people on the forums. Reading above, you can see a post from Jaide where he says that people were accussing him of failing to prove the system was broken.

    Awhile back I started a thread asking if the development team would make a statement, and I was roundly flamed. There are a handful of people who were avid leve failers, who from the start would admit that it shouldn't be that way, but for the most part now you just have people changing their tune because they see it is for sure going away now.
    I find it hard to believe that even the most rabid of pro leve canceller believed that it was a feature for the specific ability to redo the same leves. I think most people new it was a side effect from the DC issues this game was plagued with at launch. But also knew it wasn't against any rules.

    You take a broken system that distributes random leves of which are not nearly close to being equal in reward add that to the monotony of ranking to 50 with only the few leves available of which even fewer reward decent SP gains and then the ability to make it less of a struggle and people will take advantage of it.

    I remember the threads you made, I also remember being targeted as a cheater.

    In the end we all wanted the same thing equal reward across the leves available.
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