Can people slow down for newer players?

[kensatsu]

Btw SE should not put these dungeon rewarded with myth in the duty roulette maybe,
the myths needed is too great, people will speedrun everything, and them won't slow because new players wan't to watch CS.
But it would be a long queue for the new players for doing these instance.

[Sairii]

Easy solution:

Dont link the roulette to first timers. Let them have their "fun time".

Most of the time its only 1 or 2 first timers in there.
So should 6-7 people wait for the other 2 because they don´t wanna watch it in the Inn?

So every day I should have to wait for them so that I waste 1 hour.

You can watch your cutscenes if you want, just do it later. Or make a pf group for it.

[Llyren]

Easy solution:

Dont link the roulette to first timers. Let them have their "fun time".

Most of the time its only 1 or 2 first timers in there.
So should 6-7 people wait for the other 2 because they don´t wanna watch it in the Inn?

So every day I should have to wait for them so that I waste 1 hour.

You can watch your cutscenes if you want, just do it later. Or make a pf group for it.

Pretty sure the main reasons there is a roulette for those main scenario quests and low level dungeons, is to help newer players and those leveling more slowly to see the content, rather then waiting in queue for as long as it takes for players that want that specific instance.

We're not getting easy myth to make myth easier to farm. We're getting easy myth because our characters are part of the content other players need to see the rest of the content. We are product.

[LanceValiant]

I usually end up skipping the cutscenes. I watch dungeon videos and whatnot on youtube, and I've seen them a thousand times over, so for me it's kind of petty to create such a fuss over a cutscene; I mean, if you haven't seen it before, that's fine. I would HOPE that the other members in the party would be respectful of your time. It's not that serious lol I'll let someone watch a cutscene. It'll give me enough time to double check my stuff and make sure I'm all good to go, or get to know peeps before the show starts.

For the people who don't like to wait, suck it up lol It's not going to kill you.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Having read through this again and seeing many of the very same points I'd make myself I am so much more disgusted with the tome grind. I like the roulettes, and sure, I like the bonuses, but the grind itself (especially as of the Zodiac Saga) makes me wretch.

Why? Because it brings out the absolute worst in the community. No one's really there to help anyone, new or veteran, they're just in it for the tomes. Everything, EVERYTHING becomes all about numbers; to Hell with the people you're playing with. You don't need to experience the story, learn the fight in some cases, or even be courteous to others. . . As long as you get your precious tomes. Ugh.

Here's a thought: perhaps not nearly as quickly, I get my tomes. By actually helping others. Sometimes I run into a first timer. . . I help them learn what needs to be learned. Why? Because if I quit, I get NOTHING. Time wasted. If I'm patient and I help them, that's one more person who knows what they're doing and can become consistent in doing it properly, which helps me get my tomes later on even when dealing with randoms. If I don't help him, push him to play MY way for MY tomes, or berate/doubt them simply for being new, that's another bad experience that'll drive them away from running the content we're BOTH going to need later for those bloody tomes. Again: Time wasted. I cap occasionally, but I'm really not worried about it. Why? Because I can literally get them ANYWHERE now. Reducing the game to a grind and not trying to both get better or help others get better isn't going to accomplish anything (because we all know better gear doesn't trump better skill right?) And yes, there are trolls, lazy players who want to be carried, people who never learned, or even people who don't WANT to learn. . . But they make themselves obvious. And we all know how to address those types of players.

So who's time are you ultimately wasting by grinding tomes for whatever you may do so for, and NOT helping foster a strong, skilled community of players? I'm not saying it's a responsibility of anyone to help anyone else get better, no. But think about that next time you find yourself standing around in Mor Dhona using Shouts/Party Finder for long periods of time to find people who are good enough to help you do something that's more challenging than grinding for those damn tomes.

[Brill_]

Got Praetorium in my main scenario roulette yesterday. The group kicked a guy for watching cutscenes.

[Lucke]

I think what people need to do, is stand up for themselves. If people are telling a first-timer to skip CSes, don't skip them. Don't let them kill the fun. Stand up for yourselves. If they pressure you into doing a speedrun and you aren't comfortable with it, F*** 'em and go at your own pace. Don't let anyone push you around.

[Skyy]

Pretty sure the main reasons there is a roulette for those main scenario quests and low level dungeons, is to help newer players and those leveling more slowly to see the content, rather then waiting in queue for as long as it takes for players that want that specific instance.

We're not getting easy myth to make myth easier to farm. We're getting easy myth because our characters are part of the content other players need to see the rest of the content. We are product.

To me, this makes it all the more reasonable for new players to watch the cutscene's later. New players need the players that want to skip them more than the other way around. Players that are farming myth don't need new players that slow things down at all and would much prefer people that are also in it for the tome grind. New players should be happy that the players grinding myth tomes are even queuing for it, say thank you and skip the CS then go watch it later on their time.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

It should be noted that Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium were not originally created for myth tome grinding. If they were, they wouldn't have cutscenes that tell the story throughout and they'd be a much quicker, simpler enemy gauntlet. You could argue that Brayflox HM was, as it's not tied to the main scenario at all and it basically is just an enemy gauntlet. So technically, myth grinders DO need the new players. Because let's face it: who runs CM/Prae just because? Roulettes aside, who runs such lengthy dungeons for the fun of it? Especially when you think about the fact that dungeons like Amdapor Keep, Wanderer's Palace, and now Bray HM are much faster methods to acquire that precious thing. Not to mention all the other ways you can get them now.

Sorry myth-addicts, you're actually on their time. To comically invert your last statement, grinders are the ones who should be happy that there are first timers to run it, say thank you, and not pitch a fit that people want to watch CS when THEY chose a less time-efficient grinding venue.

[Divine_Intervention]

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Ridiculous. We get those tomes as a BONUS for helping those newer players, the duty roulletes aren't there as a speed-run-the-crap out of it, drag your poor newer players along kinda thing. They myth is attached to that as a THANK YOU for HELPING those new players experience the content, and enjoy their game/CS. If i need to wait a few minutes here and there for a CS, so be it. As mentioned, there are plenty of other ways to get tomes. Don't like the newer players watching their CS, go grind them elsewhere.

Personally, I'll let them watch their scenes, thank them at the end, bow courteously and throw them a player commendation to help them out.
And let's not forget, take that myth reward away and duty roulette becomes what the name suggests, a randomly selected dungeon. We didn't treat one another this way at release, we all wanted to enjoy this bright shiny new toy, let the newbies have that fun too.