Battle Reform: Enmity (07/06/2011)

[Kailok]

Well I guess you could say that except I wouldn't have said anything if that's what I was worried about. :P

Yes, but by said logic, you could have turned it around and then used THIS RECENT post to make you seem more innocent. CONSPIRACY!

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Again, how does the community get worse with an enmity meter? Please, do explain for us simple folk. I'm not taking it personally, I'm calling it how I see it.

I am too tired of this discussion to take you seriously anymore, so here is something for you to wrap your head around.

First it's enemy levels, then NPC floaty icons, then an enmity meter, then jumping and then one day you walk into the Milvaneth Sacrarium in Ul'dah to a bunch of people cybering.

[SuzakuCMX]

I am too tired of this discussion to take you seriously anymore, so here is something for you to wrap your head around.

First it's enemy levels, then NPC floaty icons, then an enmity meter, then jumping and then one day you walk into the Milvaneth Sacrarium in Ul'dah to a bunch of people cybering.

Lmao.

Just lmao.

[TirionCrey]

As much as I don't care about a enmity icon being in the game or not, as much I can see the positive side of it, cause enmity icons will show peolpe how much "more" they could do w/o grabbing hate so they can get closer to the edge of maximum performance instead of just guessing the egde. No matter how good or skilled of a player you may are...knowing facts will make you better than a person who needs to guess.

Thus SE can actually tune fights more towards this edge of maximum performance, cause now people won't be challenged to "not grab hate", they will be challenged to do their best while not grabbing hate!

[indira]

hate meter FTL. more easy mode thanks SE >_> (easy went to novice)
knowing the mob's strategy will really make things less boreing. why not just show us a list of the next moves the mob will do.

biggest problem with MMO's to day -> efficient is greater than fun. im just waiting for the damage counters to pop up then see'ya square.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Lmao.
Just lmao.

At least someone still has a sense of humour

[SuzakuCMX]

At least someone still has a sense of humour

We can cyber if you pay me 300k gil.

[Capita]

First it's enemy levels, then NPC floaty icons, then an enmity meter, then jumping and then one day you walk into the Milvaneth Sacrarium in Ul'dah to a bunch of people cybering.

You mean that doesn't already happen?

[Linkurrra]

So what is my enmity level when the mob turns from the tank and starts attacking me when I am not shooting anything at the time?

How about dying and running to rejoin the party from the Aetheryte. I heal myself up after weakness wears off. Mob starts coming towards me because I was healing. Yet for some reason it loses interest and goes back to original tanking party. All the while the tank had lost track of the mob because it left and went around the corner out of view.

Now you tell me what the enmity of that mob was as it was doing some pretty weird enmity decision making :P Granted that is the enmity under the current system, which they said was overly complicated.

Point is nobody knows how enmity truly works in FFXIV. It's all pure speculation based on their play experiences. And when every player experience has the potential of being unique. It's impossible to formulate a correct answer out of speculation!

This is just as bad as Facing north in XI to get better synthesis results. The darn game has been out for 8+ years and nobody still has a straight answer on if direction your facing actually affects synthesis results.

And even with the gauge, it is very vauge and only tells you what "YOUR" enmity is to the creature. Not anybody elses. So it can't tell you who pulled the enmity off of you. So it's not all that revealing on how the mob is behaving. Just a rough guide.

I would prefer numbers vs. colored icons. But SE seems to pride itself on keeping things a secret and having the player figure it out.

I just hope it doesn't show up when you are solowing. Because it truly is useless in that scenario!

[Davorok]

I hate this thread.

/enmity +330