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  1. #21
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    I dont understand when you say it needs a purpose, but then say its not worthy of sands/oils. It will be the perfect place to gear up if they make it easy to get sands of time there. Most of us wont be able to clear coil even with level 110 gear anyway. Cant even get to second coil without a well coordinated static to beat twintania. T4 of the original coil is as far as the game goes for people who rely on a random DF party.
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  2. #22
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    But CT2 will upgrade the soldiery gear....which is still worse than coil 2 gear , but better than anything else, so it seems pretty ok?
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  3. #23
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    Logo's Avatar
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 52
    I came back after 2.2, I didn't understand its point since you could get myth gear.
    I did it for the content but in my race for "omg gear" I didn't see the point after
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  4. #24
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    If they stopped doing that, we'd never see places like Brayflox HM, or the upcoming Hullbreaker Isle, etc. They cover level/gear/reward ranges that technically you can already be well ahead of or skip entirely if you were so inclined.

    Although, yes there's people who complain about those too for that reason, but honestly, I have 0 issue with the introduction of content that is not aimed at the extremely tiny crowd that has already tackled everything.
    The issue is that the raids released are the primary feature of the patch it is released in. I would feel less cheated with one big raid patch containing both CT and coil every 6 months and one patch filled with other nice stuff (that I like more than raiding actually) like weddings, housing, crafting etc. One raid patch and one patch with other content. That way CT would atleast at some point be relevant. Or release coil>CT>coil>CT and that the next released one is harder than the last one. Right now it is backwards every other patch though which leads to content that "no one" does.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  5. #25
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    CT is still relevant. It's great for fresh 50's to get decent gear quickly - particularly since brayflox/amdapor/halatali are often stingy with non-accessory Darklight drops. It's also a good source of equipment for gearing up high-level retainers to reach the ilvl 70 requirement retainers need for the best retainer ventures.
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  6. #26
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Smily Kweh
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    The myth reward CT1 gives is not balanced out, our FC will help people with CT but unless that person gets lucky with gear drops the myth rate is just way to low/slow for CT to hold value, if it runs perfect the myth/time rate is alright but 1 trouble or wipe or screw up and it goes from ok to awful. But yeah since you can't trade CT gear in for seals/do anything with it, it's more efficient to just farm myth/sold/gear from a dungeon since it's i90, and you can make gil, and you can start doing coil faster that way. While the gear/dungeon idea may still hold a decent relevance the actual practice of ti does not. this could have been fixed by actauly making the myth drop worth it, and allowing us to even spiritbond/convert ct gear if not trade for seals.

    It is a VERY Elitist attitude to think that CT2 shouldn't drop oil/sands. Tomb gear is supposed to be tied with the strongest gear, it's meant for players who don't do raids like coil to get the i110. Myth/allag both i90, CT i80.So to compensate for CT2 being released second SE did weathered soldiery gear at i100, high allagan at i110 and based coil around these gear scores, instead of like the old coil that was designed with the idea that the player has CT gear.
    So if Sands and oils stay in coil then how is the average player supposed to get the i110 soldiery gear that is intended for them? CT2, is exactly there for that reason. Not to mention this also MAKES CT2 actually have relevance to a main job since with both CT1/2 you the player have had enough time to buy all the soldiery/myth gear for one job and move onto alts, before CT comes out, making the dungeon's gear/drop irrelevant for a main, in the past.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 06-03-2014 at 10:31 PM.

  7. #27
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    This is how I leveled my gear.

    Warrior - darklight and a few myth, once my warrior was geared, I still needed more myth gear, So my warrior got more myth, While now my WHM was gear darklight, and my mnk was getting CT gear.

    This let me get gear for all 3 jobs at the same time, so the system worked really well for me.

    Fast forward to now, Soildery gear was going to my WHM being lowest gear, and myth are going to books.

    I'm currently running CT so my hubby can get some better WHM gear without spending myth as myth are used on books, and soildery are being spent on his BRD.
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    Last edited by Kewitt; 06-03-2014 at 10:51 PM.
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  8. #28
    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 53
    Considering the sand and the oil of time will drop from the CT2 that means all that solidery gear can now be upgraded from i100 to i110. It is indeed still a stepping stone to coil, and due to i110 gear probably better at it that CT1 was. So we know going forward the goal will still be accurate, but I don't think they have any intention for the old content to be anything more than Vanity gear at this point. Once soldiery came out that gear was nothing more than filler. Between solidery and myth a new lv50 will easily have i90 within a week or two.
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  9. #29
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    As Tiggy mentionned.

    Now to make it so my party with iLvl110 will be able to pass Coil runs, me included ^^

    as for CT - for me it's on and off. Even if they inserted it too late, I still can enjoy these runs and get the glamour sets for my alts. (my myth goes for my animus tomes T_T)

    Now some said something about trolls - out of 2 CT now, it seems one goes very smoothly, the other one you wish you never clicked to enter >.<

    I just try to think because of PS4, there's plenty of new lvl 50s.. if only they care to listen a bit on Alliance chat, we don't have a problem.

    After all, I believe the iLvl100s that goes there helps in a way for them..

    But unless it's a constant wipe, I find it funny to see them going everywhere, like the first time I've been there ^^

    Good times.
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  10. #30
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    Bigpurpleharness's Avatar
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    It is a VERY Elitist attitude to think that CT2 shouldn't drop oil/sands. Tomb gear is supposed to be tied with the strongest gear, it's meant for players who don't do raids like coil to get the i110. Myth/allag both i90, CT i80.So to compensate for CT2 being released second SE did weathered soldiery gear at i100, high allagan at i110 and based coil around these gear scores, instead of like the old coil that was designed with the idea that the player has CT gear.
    So if Sands and oils stay in coil then how is the average player supposed to get the i110 soldiery gear that is intended for them? CT2, is exactly there for that reason..
    Believe it or not, these types would prefer the majority of people not being able to get that gear.
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