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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    I remember almost a year ago people saying the exact same thing.
    Yeah so do I, I think I was one of those people too!

    I've stuck around till this long with the game, but I'm starting to find myself hate it more and more simply because I have hope that it'll be good, and a saint's patience would be tested at this point. Guess all I'm trying to say is, people that are frustrated with every patch and every delay - it really doesn't matter, and you'll only end up rage-quitting the game unless you give it a break or just be mindful that this game has bare minimum a year before it'll even be passable. Come 2nd expansion, then it'll be a great game, if anyone is left to play it XD
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    That "Before end of Summer" todo list needs a 2012 adding onto it.
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    I think 1.19 and 1.20 will be more important than 1.18.

    1.18 is the foundation with the basic changes needed for the furure content / improvements (with the exception of dungeons, that will prolly get fine-tuned when job system comes out anyway).

    I translated that french dev post to un-hype some people who were expecting 1.18 this week and getting excited (tho it's still possible ...). They should stop fixing hypothetical dates.

    And for all the negative people, there are so many good things to do in the summer. Go take some sun, fresh air, play some golf and Tiger Woods some ladies.
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    Seriously it's only 5th July <_<. It's SE so expect seeing patch date 2 days before maintenance. But I do agree with this:
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    That "Before end of Summer" todo list needs a 2012 adding onto it.
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    Lol it was so obvious this kind of discussion would come up once July is more than 1 day old...

    Does ANYBODY ever learn anything from what SE does? SINCE the launch of FFXIV they announced patches TWO DAYS prior their implementation...we never got a date for a patch anytime sooner than 2 days before it happened. So what exactly is wrong with everyone? Expect a date for the patch sometime early next week and the patch happening sometime late next week as usual...

    If they would say "It's coming 17th July" and THEN it would be delayed by only 1 day, people would start a rage war on the forums...so don't hate them for being cautious with such a hateful playerbase.
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    Tiron they said it would be in June, then confirmed as Earliest Mid June, now its not even June, there is no June, it cant eve be late june, it cant even be the last 0.000000000000000000001 seconds of June.

    People expected it in June, there is no June, maybe I should listen to SE and expect it in June, of 2012.
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    SE moving slow is most likely due to their resources being cut since FFXIV is not a revenue generator.


    Even still, I believe their progress has been under par.
    If I were to compare FFXIV to original EQ, which is 13 years old, SE has performed poorly.
    It took them 3 years to make EQ, while SE took 5 on FFXIV.
    Within their first year EQ had 3 end game areas with end game armor for all classes, Plane of Fear, Hate and Sky.
    11 months after release EQ was ready with their first expansion which doubled the size of the game, increased the level cap from 50 to 60, and had quests for epic weapons for every class that took several months to complete.
    After 3 years EQ was releasing 2 expansions a year, every Feb and Oct.

    And while doing all that with EQ, they had a small team and not dozens of other MMOs on the market to imitate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holyomen View Post
    SE moving slow is most likely due to their resources being cut since FFXIV is not a revenue generator.


    Even still, I believe their progress has been under par.
    If I were to compare FFXIV to original EQ, which is 13 years old, SE has performed poorly.
    It took them 3 years to make EQ, while SE took 5 on FFXIV.
    Within their first year EQ had 3 end game areas with end game armor for all classes, Plane of Fear, Hate and Sky.
    11 months after release EQ was ready with their first expansion which doubled the size of the game, increased the level cap from 50 to 60, and had quests for epic weapons for every class that took several months to complete.
    After 3 years EQ was releasing 2 expansions a year, every Feb and Oct.

    And while doing all that with EQ, they had a small team and not dozens of other MMOs on the market to imitate.
    More demanding games take longer to develop? Say what?!

    Was SOE working on overhauling the game during it's first year post-release?

    If not, there is even less sense to compare them.
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    EQ and FFXIV cannot be compared in terms of how long it took to develop. As far as I remember when I tried out EQ it didn't have anywhere near comparable graphics, it takes time to make higher detailed areas, items and characters. While I admit that development in FFXIV is slow and dragging on, I couldn't do any better myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    Lol it was so obvious this kind of discussion would come up once July is more than 1 day old...

    Does ANYBODY ever learn anything from what SE does? SINCE the launch of FFXIV they announced patches TWO DAYS prior their implementation...we never got a date for a patch anytime sooner than 2 days before it happened. So what exactly is wrong with everyone? Expect a date for the patch sometime early next week and the patch happening sometime late next week as usual...

    If they would say "It's coming 17th July" and THEN it would be delayed by only 1 day, people would start a rage war on the forums...so don't hate them for being cautious with such a hateful playerbase.
    First off, it's never a good thing to insult the people you're trying to talk to. Using capital letters left and right doesn't help either. If you have an opinion, be civil about it and more people will listen to you.

    That said, I think you lost the point. What's worrying a lot of people is that, judging from the community rep comment, they're not even 100% sure the patch will be out in July at all. Worst case scenario, if it does come out in August, we'd have four months without any patch and that's awful.
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