I obviously know more about your class than you do, play how I tell you.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Oh, my God... I just read all the thread.

Ok, uh... I do agree that you should take advice. Even if you ask for it or not. It's really self-centered to not accept a critic, despite if it was rude or not. If people call you out for something or they give you some advice, you should double check what you're doing. Yes, people play this for fun, but YOUR fun is hurting other's people fun. Yes, it does. That's why I say it's very self-centered. And yes, everybody is paying for this, but guess what, nobody is aiming you with a sniper rifle all day if you don't pay for it. It's your choice if you do. You can have MORE fun if you learn your class, take advice and do the things you're supposed to do. That's why the game is not only three big red button that says "ATTACK" // "HEAL" // "TANK". There're skills and descriptions. Combos and rotations. Cooldowns and buffs. Debuffs and reaction-skills.

Even if you're not a raider, you should take a chance and learn your class. If people say something, even if they're playing with a different role, their opinion is not less significant because people can play anything here. Saying this, they might or they might not be experienced with that class. It's way better if they point these flaws out, or do you prefer them to leave without saying a word? I said this before, saying "don't tell me what to do" is childish. That's the kind of answer I can expect from a little kid/teenager discussing with his/her mom, not an adult.

[Luxx]

"DRG LB"

^I get this all the time. Super annoying. I know when to lb. It's even worse when they say it and IT'S DEFINITELY NOT the right time to lb. I.e. Brayflox, to skip big bomb phase, people tell me to lb immediately(wrong time), you're suppose to start lb when his 'sprint' comes up.

It's because it's pretty obnoxious when folks want to LB when the guy has 3% health left.
I see it happen all the time, we usually burn him down right as the person animation starts.

Also, sucks to see Dragoon be the bottom the barrel these days, lots of hate towards em I see.
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[Cyrus-Wallace]

It's because it's pretty obnoxious when folks want to LB when the guy has 3% health left.
I see it happen all the time, we usually burn him down right as the person animation starts.

Also, sucks to see Dragoon be the bottom the barrel these days, lots of hate towards em I see.
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Ugh, I missed that post. I do agree with you as well, Luxx. Well, to be fair, DRG is a job that can screw it up easily, since their jumps are an obstacle when it comes to dodge. Also, in response to Alyssa, if you're playing with random people, don't expect them to know how you play. Be a bit realist here. You can always say BEFORE the battle starts "hey, guys, I'll LB when the boss is at X HP or before/after he uses Y mechanic".

[Killance]

Oh, my God... I just read all the thread.

Ok, uh... I do agree that you should take advice. Even if you ask for it or not. It's really self-centered to not accept a critic, despite if it was rude or not.
Even if you're not a raider, you should take a chance and learn your class.

This tells me you haven't read the entire thread otherwise you wouldn't have added that.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

This tells me you haven't read the entire thread otherwise you wouldn't have added that.

Yeah, sorry for giving my opinion as you did with your thread. Also, I mentioned I agreed with that statement.

[Diavolo]

I don't really tell anyone anything unless they are clearly struggling as a bard. I usually ask first, though. I never just force myself onto people. I hate when non-bards tell me how to bard when I'm not even having a hard time. Especially when they've not played the role (Again, I ask them). Some people think there's only one right rotation and everything else is wrong. I'm a very adaptive player. I've never looked up anything because that's not how I learn. I don't watch videos or follow a strict set of rules. You pay for the game. Play it as you like. If someone has a problem with it, they can shove it up their ass.

[Eidolon]

I always observe people, and watch how they play. I try to give advice, unsolicited or no, but I usually preface it with, "Hey X, I notice some things that you could improve - would you mind if I talked with you about them?" And it usually nets a positive response. It's less about shoving advice down people's throats and more about trying to teach them how to play their class, since a lot of people originally fate grinded their class, or only leveled it for speed runs.

Black mage is the biggest perpetrator of this. I see too many BLM's who c ast Fire I, then Flare, then Convert, Then Flare, then don't even transpose to get mana back. This is because the BLM logic of speed runs has become 'Blow all MP as fast as possible" when a basic AoE rotation would help more.

[Shigaru]

Yeah, sorry for giving my opinion as you did with your thread. Also, I mentioned I agreed with that statement.

Just save it. I think this is a troll. He's allowed to be short with people and get annoyed at advice but everyone else has to be nice and think of his feelings.

[KingOfAbyss]

I try to give advice, unsolicited or no, but I usually preface it with, "Hey X, I notice some things that you could improve - would you mind if I talked with you about them?".

As far as I am happy to see you are doing it right.. the other end of the spectrum these days kills the entire purpose of it.

Why you'd ask? You really have the time to type all of this? In these days where Speed Runs kills everything?

Unless you macro a universal sentence, then you type their name and click on that macro.

It's sooo saddening to see that some wants to help.. but no one has the time to listen, or worse - they just don't care.

[Erudain]

The tone of the advise seemed to be condescending...but heck, I wasn't there so I can't know if he was crazy or if you really were not doing your job properly.

As for "always take the advice given to you"....wrong, you don't do that.
You "judge the advice given" if you somewhat know your class you'll realize if they were right ASAP and take it to better yourself.

As a fellow DGN I can't tell you how many times "experienced DGNs" have told me dots are useless (and you know they aren't), or to just stay at the flanks....I recall a MAR once who even told me the Impulse Drive - Disembowel - Chaos Trust combo was useless.

So "judge the advice given"...and if it's crap, you'll know inmediately, dismiss and continue DPSing