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  1. #21
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    Titor Jaraba
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    I do not even notice clipping really (Except the WHM staff when backmounted clips through the WHM hooded robe, which is ugh), so I would love to see longer hairstyles for both female AND male characters.
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  2. #22
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    Tharian's Avatar
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    problem

    my only problem with long hair such as the type that Tifa Lockheart sported in Final Fantasy 7 (original version) is that hair that trails down to a person's knee's or lower would actually hurt if worn by a real person. This is why you don't see real world women (or the occasional man) wearing their hair that long. It just isn't practical.

    And that is only taking into account the biological component of adding such long hair styles. From a purely computer graphics design point of view, they would automatically be required to turn off the stowed weapons mechanics for all weapons except those used by Pugilists, Arcanists, and the non-staff weapons used by Conjurer's and Thaumaturges (though this would require the stowed Shields be turned off as well) due to clipping issues that would be present with the long hair. These issues are already present with some of the longer hair styles already present in the game, but anything longer than what is currently present in the game would just be pushing the limits of what is reasonable.
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    Last edited by Tharian; 05-26-2014 at 06:00 PM.

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  3. #23
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    Zait Zaitoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    Add me to the group who'd take long hairstyles with clipping than none at all.

    If someone is bothered with clipping he's free to pick any other armor that doesn't clip. Glamour is there for a reason. Or you know, wear a different hairstyle he/she is content with.
    ur 100% true sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    This is why you don't see real world women (or the occasional man) wearing their hair that long.
    Oh really ?



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    Meier Michaelis
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    having longer hair options would be very nice
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  6. #26
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    They've already said a few times that they can't add any really long hairstyles without running into major clipping problems.
    They say that, but prove again and again that they do not give a damn about clipping issues.
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  7. #27
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    Why do people keep talking about physics? That is for movies and stuff with incredible processing power.

    For games you go with simply making hair skeletons that will animate the hair specific ways when animations are played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    To be fair, I've played a lot of MMO's and haven't found a single one devoid of clipping issues yet. Everything from World of Warcraft to DC Universe Online has its fair share of them simply because you can't have a catch-all solution which has the fine control needed to cover all circumstances.
    Tera outfits change your hairstyle if the armor model goes around your neck/hair, making your hairstyle into short stance. It didn't really help to take out all the clipping, but it helped to get rid of major clipping issues if your armor was really big.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nouran View Post
    Oh really ?
    [snip, pics]
    Yes really. The images you showed actually have less volume than the types of hair I was talking about. But you brought up an interesting point. I did a quick google search, and it does appear that there are a few people out there that do have hair that long, or hair extensions that long. That doesn't change the fact that these people probably suffer incredible headaches, because the human neck is not designed to support hair that long.

    All that said, that doesn't change the fact that while such hair is possible in the real world, it really isn't all that feasible in a digital world where clipping issues play an extremely prominent role in determining what is and is not aesthetically pleasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that these people probably suffer incredible headaches, because the human neck is not designed to support hair that long.
    I see, you never grow your hair didn't you?


    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    it really isn't all that feasible in a digital world where clipping issues play an extremely prominent role in determining what is and is not aesthetically pleasing.
    that is your opinion and your problem alone
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