What's with the new players today?

[Issac]

But I also don't want them to play a vital role like tank, which is supposed to guide the party through the dungeon, and being completely oblivious about what awaits ahead. Really, please, play dps or healer, something that doesn't have the responsability of being the party's head, learn your dungeon, and then go tank it.

I was with you all the way until the above quoted. I don't agree.
Darkhold popped because of roulette, right? Roulette is for new players, it helps keep the older dungeons that need to be cleared in use. If the new player is a tank, just roll with it and try to be patient. And of course if the person is disrespectful and unwilling to learn, you can lose that patience, that's completely understandable.

But in my opinion, we should not expect new players to just level a class other than tank for everything when they want to play tank. That's unreasonable. Let them play as they like.

[Bebekurenai]

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I'm not saying new players should avoid playing tank and just play dps, I'm saying if their role involves like in this case tanking, which is to keep monsters' focus on you at all times, preventing the party getting damaged, and leading the party through a dungeon, and if this person choosing to play that role 1) doesn't fulfill the role's objective listed before, 2) ignores the mechanics of the instance and leads the party to continous wipes and 3) won't communicate and/or take advice, then yes, they should not play a tank, since they are not playing it on the first place.

What I mean can be applied to any role, it's just the tank is the one I came across the most which made it very hard for the party to progress.

[WHS]

I was with you all the way until the above quoted. I don't agree.
Darkhold popped because of roulette, right? Roulette is for new players, it helps keep the older dungeons that need to be cleared in use. If the new player is a tank, just roll with it and try to be patient. And of course if the person is disrespectful and unwilling to learn, you can lose that patience, that's completely understandable.

But in my opinion, we should not expect new players to just level a class other than tank for everything when they want to play tank. That's unreasonable. Let them play as they like.

I have to agree with Bebekurenai in that if you really don't get your job you should be looking for a different one. That goes for real life too. Don't try to do something you clearly don't have the knack for. It makes others suffer and comes back to bite you in the A**.