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  1. #21
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    ManaKeKz's Avatar
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    Shae Stargazer
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Stacking shields would be a big issue due to the previously mentioned Adlo crits on the tank, but I think we can all agree that currently a Sch/Sch setup is inferior to Whm/Whm (and ofc Whm/Sch is top for most any fight). Since the DF regularly places 2 Scholars in a team regardless of which encounter they face, I do think that some kind of synergy would be nice. Consider an ilvl 57-60 party on Titan HM with 2 Scholars. Non-stacking Succor for Tumult heals and non-stacking Adlo on the tank means they're in for a lot more work than a setup that has one or two White Mages.
    Like others said I agree that the healing power of one Scholar is perfectly fine as is, but 2 Whms can easily spam Med/Med2 on the party or Cure2/Reg on the tank while our cornerstone skills only work for one Scholar per party.

    That being said, I like the idea of converting a wasted Galvanize into some proportion of healing, so 2 Scholars spamming Adlo on a tank feels somewhat like 1 Adlo spam and 1 Cure 2 spam. Bonus: What if the Galvanize only converts to healing if the active Galvanize is not yours? I.e. Scholar 1 heals as normal, Scholar 2 casts Adlo while the other Scholar's Galvanize still holds and heals instead.
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    Last edited by ManaKeKz; 04-29-2014 at 12:18 AM. Reason: 1k limit

  2. #22
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    JammerSidewinder's Avatar
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    Jammer Sidewinder
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    Like take for example T2. If you're trying to do enrage in that fight, its impossible with 2 Scholars, even with a Bard, unless everyone's over-geared for the fight and every attack lands.
    I've done T2 enrage with 2 SCH (1 being myself), and it worked out ok. Not sure the gear level of the party, but it mattered that us healers knew how to rotate our buffs so we weren't overwriting each other's.
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  3. #23
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    LStarbreeze's Avatar
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    Una Gloriana
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The only thing I would like changed in Scholars is Embrace's cooldown. I know it's a little difference, but I would like it if it was the same as the cooldown for Physick and Cure. It would be really neat if the faeries got a buff when they are both out, like their spells last a little longer. But, not a necessity. Scholar is pretty well balanced, and 2 Sch can be pretty awesome if they know how to alternate buffs well.
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  4. #24
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I often read that a SCH has better heal and better dps than a whm.
    And many SCH told me they can solo heal everything.
    So, I think they have no issue for sch+sch as one sch can just help DPS? ^^;
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    Jrug Dealer
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    So, having a healbot and being able to get two heals off in 1 global cool down, three 25% health heals off global cool down every 60 seconds, not having to manage your mana pool or manage threat is not enough you want more? Simply laughable, get good and play within your jobs' mechanics
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  6. #26
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    A fix? On what? Are sch broken? I dont think so
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    King Drako
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 76
    I agree with what most people have already said and that it would prolly be a bad thing if Shields Stack and would make alot of content herp derp easy.

    But I'm I the only one that feels that SCH could use another pet AOE heal besides Whispering Dawn (60sec CD)? Something like a AoE Embrace but with 100 pontency on a 3sec CD. The lack of this is why I think SCH struggle in content like EX Titan, Turn 2, etc... Succors front load HP recovery is pretty weak with only a 150 potency and I think the point the OP was trying to make is that the 150 potency sheild that comes with SUCCOR is often wasted since it doesnt stack with other Succors. If you ask me, 400mp for 150 potency heal (since 150 is wasted with other SCH in party) is not very effecient.

    WHM significantly outclass SCH when it comes to AOE Healing, SCH Pet should bridge that gap. I think this is the real reason why 2 SCH doesnt stack as well as 2 WHM. And this should be the issue we should focus on.

    Im surprised no one mention this.
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  8. #28
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    Im surprised no one mention this.
    there is a reason they are 2 different classes. Will you be happy if whms get pets that auto heal and give buffs and gain an ability that instantly lets us get mp. what if we get shields?

    it is not an issue at all. 2 sch is 4 healers in 1 party. Titan EX is fine as long as people arent getting caught out of place a lot. also T2s argument is "enrage" which isnt how it was meant to be done, but they just allowed it.

    They are both their separate classes and both have pros and cons. I like this post from reddit that explains it. I feel they both should stay where they are at. Eventually the game will get 1 or 2 more new healer classes. they have to somehow remain different from each other.
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  9. #29
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Scholars main job is to mitigate damage. They do that extraordinary well. IF squares does want to add something. I say let scholar have a proc/skill that will guarantee a critical hit on the next action. How often it occurs? let's leave the decision to the devs.

    Or a skill to up healing potency.
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    Last edited by melflomil; 05-01-2014 at 01:39 AM.

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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil View Post
    Scholar doesn't need any kind of fixing done to it.
    Exactly, there's no need to. I know everyone does Enraged but I don't see SE adjusting a job for a strategy they most likely didn't plan people to use by default in the first place.
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