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    Aaron_T's Avatar
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    They need to find a way to make this game not like every other MMO out there.
    You want people to progress in player skill and not just gear but then again
    one reason a lot of people get fed up with MMOs is because of the mundane gear grind.
    Weekly caps keep people interested sure.
    But I 100% agree there needs to be more than one way to progress not just gear.

    "How do I become a great Adventurer like you Aaron Tee?"
    "Buy gear from Rowena"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_T View Post
    You want people to progress in player skill and not just gear but then again -snip- But I 100% agree there needs to be more than one way to progress not just gear.
    There's already skill based progression. Ask any of the people who have T9 down (multiple groups now), along with any other content when it was just added, that did it without the gear crutch so many people rely on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium View Post
    There's already skill based progression. Ask any of the people who have T9 down (multiple groups now), along with any other content when it was just added, that did it without the gear crutch so many people rely on.
    Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
    Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
    As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 04-29-2014 at 09:00 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
    Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
    As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...
    Haha you have no idea what you're talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
    Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
    As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...
    I don't think you've taken a step into t6-9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    I don't think you've taken a step into t6-9.
    Yea, i am just some stupid kid who knows nothing... *sarcasm*
    Adds are just there to cheer you, why bothering to hit them anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Yea, i am just some stupid kid who knows nothing... *sarcasm*
    Surely your FC/static must have T6-9 on farm then since according to you, they're nothing but DPS races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Yea, i am just some stupid kid who knows nothing... *sarcasm*
    Adds are just there to cheer you, why bothering to hit them anyway

    Adds =/= DPS burn. See Turn 7 as an example.
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    Last edited by Pooky_Pasha; 04-30-2014 at 01:29 AM.

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    someone should remix calvin harris eat sleep rave repeat

    but

    EAT SLEEP COIL REPEAT
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    HeavensWard theme song lyrics:

    - "We can [Stance]dance if we want to
    We can leave your friends behind
    Cause your friends don't [Stance]dance
    And if they don't [Stance]dance
    Well they're no friends of mine"

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    Serefina Solfyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
    Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
    As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...
    The reason DPS checks/enrages exist is to avoid groups trivialising content by stacking healers (as well as to provide a challenge for the DPS - healers have to ensure nobody dies, tanks have to not die while carrying out positioning and tank swapping etc, and dps have to ensure stuff dies quickly enough).

    Imagine if no boss in this game punished you for taking a long time. You could feasibly just stack 4+ healers and slowly break down the content.
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