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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    There will be, it's already been said.

    Because two female lalafells together is an abomination, but a female lalafell with a male roegadyn is completely normal.
    I'm offended... I want to marry a female roegadyn player. Lalafell adventurers are adults too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rissy View Post
    I'm offended... I want to marry a female roegadyn player. Lalafell adventurers are adults too.
    That's the point, if they allow something as ridiculous as lalafells marying highlanders or roegadyns then not allowing same sex marriages is completely stupid. There's no lore excuse for it, they just dont want to because they are afraid it might stir controversy.

    I have 3 Fantasia potions on my character so I plan to sex change, marry to my bf character, activate every possible event/mecanic/dialogue/item possible, and change back to male just to see the system collapse on itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    That's the point, if they allow something as ridiculous as lalafells marying highlanders or roegadyns then not allowing same sex marriages is completely stupid. There's no lore excuse for it, they just dont want to because they are afraid it might stir controversy.
    I think being afraid of stirring controversy is a very good reason to not allow it. Don't misunderstand me, I support same-sex marriage and I hope it's included, but it becomes a little awkward including these things for a company this size. FFXIV already failed once and they certainly wouldnt want bad publicity because some homophobic crazies could have a fit over it. Every single person working on this game could be fine with it, but you know there are people out there that love to distort and abuse video games over anything they can. I remember when Mass Effect came out for example, there were people calling for it to be banned for it's 'interactive sex scenes' when...that wasnt even a thing in it. Can you imagine the way those same people could react to this?

    'Online video game supports gay pedophilia' and shows a roe married to a lala, they'll probably claim the game lets you play as a child and supports devil worship.

    Edit: I will also add I really dont know how same-sex relationships are treated in japan. Maybe they're more open, maybe they're much more conservative which puts even more pressure onto them not to do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I think being afraid of stirring controversy is a very good reason to not allow it. Don't misunderstand me, I support same-sex marriage and I hope it's included, but it becomes a little awkward including these things for a company this size. FFXIV already failed once and they certainly wouldnt want bad publicity because some homophobic crazies could have a fit over it. Every single person working on this game could be fine with it, but you know there are people out there that love to distort and abuse video games over anything they can. I remember when Mass Effect came out for example, there were people calling for it to be banned for it's 'interactive sex scenes' when...that wasnt even a thing in it. Can you imagine the way those same people could react to this?

    'Online video game supports gay pedophilia' and shoes a roe married to a lala, they'll probably claim the game lets you play as a child and supports devil worship.

    Edit: I will also add I really dont know how same-sex relationships are treated in japan. Maybe they're more open, maybe they're much more conservative which puts even more pressure onto them not to do it
    "a very good reason to not allow"... Same Sex Marriage, or marriage at all? If controversy is the issue, then they shouldn't have marriage whatsoever. They're going with the lesser of two outrages (by pure numbers) but you've got to be crazy if you think it's not opening a can of worms in the first place.

    The crazy people that "love to distort and abuse video games" will do exactly as you said. Any way they can. They have plenty of ammo with Primals and the Twelve (religion) and lore like the "Puff Puff Brigade." Paying attention to them above a passing glance takes your eyes off your intended audience.
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    Oh god I'm gonna be hit on all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeglory View Post
    "a very good reason to not allow"... Same Sex Marriage, or marriage at all? If controversy is the issue, then they shouldn't have marriage whatsoever. They're going with the lesser of two outrages (by pure numbers) but you've got to be crazy if you think it's not opening a can of worms in the first place.

    The crazy people that "love to distort and abuse video games" will do exactly as you said. Any way they can. They have plenty of ammo with Primals and the Twelve (religion) and lore like the "Puff Puff Brigade." Paying attention to them above a passing glance takes your eyes off your intended audience.
    The lesser of two outrages, yes, by a large amount. The thing is if they don't add it, the only people who will complain are the players. If they do add it, people who don't even play the game will jump on it to attack it, and cause an uproar over things they don't even understand. Primals (evil gods/enemies), made up religions and such are pretty standard in fantasy these days so complaints about them dont pick up much steam in the long run. But same-sex marriage in the modern world is unfortunately much more recent and controversial.


    Saying 'a good reason to not allow' was probably not the best choice of words I could have made, so I apologise. I do feel that the more this topic is included in mainstream media and entertainment, the better, as each time it's brought up, it becomes more widespread and accepted little by little. But I do think it's unfair to say 'oh they're just afraid to add it they dont care,' because it's an awkward situation to be put in as a company. I also think the attitude some people have that 'if I cant have it then nobody can' is very immature and puts a bad light on the community that wants it, and then does the same for the community that retaliates against that attitude.

    Have they actually said they won't allow it yet? Maybe we should show we're all mature enough to have it rather than attack each other and the company adding this feature
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    The lesser of two outrages, yes, by a large amount.
    I disagree.

    No one jumped all over Rift when they added marriage with no gender restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    So basically, your argument against is that ignorant things will spew of the mouth holes of ignorant people. I say that's a reason for.
    I'm not actually arguing against it. Like I said multiple times, I'm for it, I want to see it. Im just trying to voice a possible reason of the other side and point out its unfair the way some people are dismissing what they dont agree with. Its ironic, people want it to be accepted and for their own views to be accept, but they arent accepting someone else's view that differs from their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I disagree.

    No one jumped all over Rift when they added marriage with no gender restrictions.
    AFAIK Rift is not a japanese game, different culture
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I think being afraid of stirring controversy is a very good reason to not allow it. Don't misunderstand me, I support same-sex marriage and I hope it's included, but it becomes a little awkward including these things for a company this size. FFXIV already failed once and they certainly wouldnt want bad publicity because some homophobic crazies could have a fit over it. Every single person working on this game could be fine with it, but you know there are people out there that love to distort and abuse video games over anything they can. I remember when Mass Effect came out for example, there were people calling for it to be banned for it's 'interactive sex scenes' when...that wasnt even a thing in it. Can you imagine the way those same people could react to this?

    'Online video game supports gay pedophilia' and shows a roe married to a lala, they'll probably claim the game lets you play as a child and supports devil worship.

    Edit: I will also add I really dont know how same-sex relationships are treated in japan. Maybe they're more open, maybe they're much more conservative which puts even more pressure onto them not to do it
    So basically, your argument against is that ignorant things will spew of the mouth holes of ignorant people. I say that's a reason for.
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    These type of people would call FF14 an abomination will do that anyway. They also you know wouldn't buy the game, because you know, magic, paganism commentary on the military industrial complex. However people who support gay Marriage might randomly decide to go "hey I'll try that game because it has it"
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