SMN DPS: Pushing it to the limit

[tayo]

Auto is at best gimmick to clear dps check in 2 fights, it doesnt make u a better player. Maybe u could enlighten me and show me ur dps on t8/t9 with auto/ifrit.

do what u said=high dps.

do what u said + basic attack = higher dps.

not saying it's a lot, but it helps.

i don't usually use poison pots, i tend to raging my first contagion, and mega int my second contagion, and so on. would you recomend poison pots over this ?

then again, im not the best smn, but im trying to get better XD

[Zamii]

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you misunderstood i think how ifrit works, he isnt just slashing, he does all 3 types of damage (being blunt, piercing and slashing), as such, the more you have, the higher his dps, it doesnt just increase with one debuff.

also, a dps's primary roll is.. shock, to deal damage, if auto attacking lets me get even 1 more dps, then how is that a gimick? you talk about poison pots and it is a lower increase in overall damage than what auto attacks are, maybe we should start calling poison pots gimicks to?
btw, i dont use ifrit on t9, the only fight i use him on is t8 period, that aside, telling you my dps doesn't really prove anything, parsers (especialy with summoner) will vary greatly.

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poison pots dont share a cooldown with int pots, just a heads up, most pots that share cooldown have identical cooldown timers.

that aside, you should be using both the int pot and RS together, the otherall increase, thought slight, will be higher since the 2 will essentially buff each other, the only time you dont want to do this is when you have 2 different dps checks you need to meet (which i've yet to encounter this issue)

[Seobit]

Pushing dps means understanding when to use miasma 2, when to weave fester, how to sustain dps while moving, or when to poison pots, not how i can use an auto when im on boss's ass.

Auto attacks are about as much of a dps upgrade as using miasma 2, weaving and using poison potion, you can't tell people to use one and not the other, damage is damage. I did almost 2k damage on our T9 kill in auto attacks, and we were literally a second short of the enrage timer so our kill was actually in part thanks to me auto attacking. Telling people not to auto attack is like telling them to skip on two festers. Just piss away your aetherflow stacks while you're at it.

[NightReach]

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gratz on ur kill, i concede my point, auto attack whenever you can i guess, ill start trying that. I assume ure only doing it during the last phase when u stack for fire/ice.

you should xint+rs miasma 2/poison ur first rotation so u can contagion all 5 dots. I'm am fairly certain poison is not effected by buffs apart from contagion and the CD is a bit weird so u could just use it ever time u do RS+Contagion.

[Seobit]

I auto attack on phase 1, early part part of phase 3 (heavens fall, we all stack near the tank for the first one, I move away for the 2nd one to avoid getting super novas on the melees) and phase 4 since we're all stacked next to the boss anyway. Phase 1 I move out a bit early before dynamo so I'm not next to the melees for the meteor streams. I also go really hard on burning mp on phase 1 to get as much damage out as possible to push the transition faster (usually 4 meteors), and since golem phase is a set time you're fine as long as you do enough dps to kill them before transitions so I use energy drain a lot there to get back to full mp for when the boss comes back down.

[whoisthekiller]

I have found Bane & Fester to useless at 50th lv, what I found very useful is Energy Drain as a Cannon. It is 150 Potency, with the Restores MP ability. I have also put into Macros (Bio; Miasma; Bio II) This is because Bio is a mobile spell. This way I'm only stuck in 1 place for 5 seconds. My roll changes by the needs of the party.
Don't call Titan Egi a Tank; it is a heavy AOE dealer. You may say its only 70 Potency every 15 seconds, But it is adding 70 Potency plus holding all adds in a 5y area, which is important do to 2 of your 4 AOE's are zero range (Miasma II & blizzard II),
while Bane may seem to be an AOE, it only targets a randomly +3 targets. In a party with a large pull I spam the Tri-Disaster, It maybe only 30 potency, but in support of Titans & the parties AOE's it dose plenty damage. Just remember to use Energy Drain to minimize MG loss. While Virus cool down is bad, I use macros; Ruose and Spur and Virus, to make Virus useable.

[whoisthekiller]

Please don't forget about your gear. Your gear makes your pet. You have a sorry pet with Black mage gear on. Alter your gear to your play style.
The ilvl 100 Accessories for summoned is just no good for your pets.
I’m using +10 Vit Rosegold HQ. with melds. My Egi Titans hp = 9.6k. not finished yet.
Try using Energy Drain as a weapon, every time your MG drops 1/4.
Use Energy Drain 1 or 2 times.
Come on dose it do any good at all to put DOT’s on a group of targets. Bane is good verse 2 or 3 targets.
But it is waste of time ageist a pull. Put Shadow Flare so tank see’s the area you are controlling,
Then get in for Miasma II & Blizzard II. Then pull out for 20 to 30 seconds of Tri-Disaster and a hit 1 or 2 of Energy Drain. Start over again with Shadow Flare. Remember it’s not just you doing AOE’s.
Tell the tank about Egi Titans AOE ability. And it’s not for the full fight. I switch Egi Garuda and Egi Titan often.

[whoisthekiller]

Hay now! some fights just are worth DOT's You get more Damage in with a 5 or 6 Ruin II fight. some fights are over when you finish your DOT's. and if you hind sight it you contributed very little damage in a short fight. review your battle tab just to see what you did.

[Seobit]

Please never post again.

[Mister-Wonderful]

This is horrible... Raging strikes after you applied all you dots is really bad. The good opening sequence should go...

Raging Strikes > Bio II > Miasma > Bio > Miasma II > Contagion > Ruin II + Fester(or Bane) > Shadowflare > Ruin 1....

Fester after bio during GCD, right as it applies so you don't miss damage, and you will get 2 festers in RS. You can also re app bio if you are good enough at timing it, before RS ends, and get Bio with RS twice, and 2 festers and all other DoT's in RS and contagion'd. If you have 3 stack aetherflow at the start of a fight, you can Fester, energy drain, 2nd fester during RS, then re pop aetherflow for another 3 stacks immediately. RS wears then Pet buffs and enkindle if available.