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  1. #11
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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Watching videos is worthless (especially Mr. Happy's videos--that guy has no idea what he's talking about half the time).

    There is no substitute for experience, and too many people think online video "guides" are the be all end all of strategies. The only thing watching videos does is add confusion, since every party is made up of different people with different classes and different skill levels. More often than not I hear people say, "Wait, that's not what I saw in the video. What are we doing again?"
    Good players will be able to glean information from a video, without being distracted by the fight itself. People CAN learn things from videos.
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  2. #12
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    Lark Aurelius
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    i tried to find a video for that, but it turned out to be a speedrun.

    oh how do i internetz, probably should watch a walkthrough.
    XD

    I laughed harder than I should have.

    Perhaps I need to watch a video on how to remember to breath...
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    'Have you ever noticed that sometimes when you cry no one sees your tears, sometimes when you're sad no one understands your pain, sometimes when you're happy no one sees your smile, but you just have to fart once and everyone knows?'

  3. #13
    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Good players will be able to glean information from a video, without being distracted by the fight itself. People CAN learn things from videos.
    I guarantee you that a player learns nothing useful whatsoever by watching a video of a fight they've never attempted.
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  4. #14
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    Anavi Anael
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Watching videos is worthless (especially Mr. Happy's videos--that guy has no idea what he's talking about half the time).
    Frigging Mr. Happy! What's he thinking trying to help the community? Geez.
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  5. #15
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    I guarantee you that a player learns nothing useful whatsoever by watching a video of a fight they've never attempted.
    And yet, I have, on multiple occasions.

    An example, I knew how to dodge Divebombs and Twisters just from watching a video, minor things to be sure, but those weren't the only things either.
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  6. #16
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    Ajisai Zabosai
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    And yet, I have, on multiple occasions.

    An example, I knew how to dodge Divebombs and Twisters just from watching a video, minor things to be sure, but those weren't the only things either.

    People have different learning styles. Watching a video may work for some, while hands on doing things is better for others. Please consult the following video to learn more about different learning styles before having a discussion about the topic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jwz_h0zXsY
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumnfire View Post
    People have different learning styles. Watching a video may work for some, while hands on doing things is better for others. Please consult the following video to learn more about different learning styles before having a discussion about the topic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jwz_h0zXsY
    No thanks. My only point was that some people can, against Eikiki saying it's impossible basically.
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  8. #18
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    Airal Luna
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    I don't see how Mr. Happy's videos are worthless. Even if you don't find the commentary particularly useful, you're seeing the fight play out. It's considerably more experience than you'll bring into the fight having not seen ANYTHING of it beforehand. He attempts to make them more useful to new players by adding the commentary to explain things, but you don't even need that if you're just trying to figure out mechanics ahead of time by watching.

    It's not for everyone, but it's something.
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  9. #19
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    I guarantee you that a player learns nothing useful whatsoever by watching a video of a fight they've never attempted.
    The whole game is about phases/rotation. Knowing the order of kill, the positioning, what ability to use, etc is all extremely helpful. Will you be able to one shot it or kill it quick if you watch a video? Nope. Does it speed up the learning process? Yup. Can players still suck after watching a video? Yup.
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  10. #20
    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Good players will be able to glean information from a video, without being distracted by the fight itself. People CAN learn things from videos.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    I guarantee you that a player learns nothing useful whatsoever by watching a video of a fight they've never attempted.
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No thanks. My only point was that some people can, against Eikiki saying it's impossible basically.
    L2DEBATE!!!! There are many instructional videos, please look forward to watching one!!!

    *jokes*
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