Fate Grinding & Poor Game Design

[Morphiana]

How is it acceptable game design to have these fates which you wait forever to spawn for have a few among them which are completely impossible to solo, duo, or even trio?

Four Winds is a good example. What am I supposed to do? Gather a full party of people in an otherwise empty area, tell them to hang out and hope this fate spawns just so we can kill it? No one has the patience for that.

This is such an awful idea. I stress awful. Ugh I wanted to like this game more than this but honestly with each patch they keep pushing this grind - fate design. It's not fun at all nor is it interesting especially when your server doesn't bother w/these fates as it is.

[Woggers]

Here's my opinion of the FATE grind. Players were complaining of lack of open world content. Saying there is no on out side of the sanctuaries. So SE made a quest line to easily fix that. Was it lazy and uncreative on their part? Some(most) may say yes. But they needed something to help boost the activity in the open world. I believe for right now it is fine. A PITA but it does make the world seem more active. As of waiting on a certain FATE to pop, this is your 'NM' that so many players were QQ about. Again it could've been handled differently but it was something that could be easily implemented in the game. If you are having trouble compleleting the FATE, throw out a shout I'm sure people will come and help. Or ask your FC mates. This always works on my server. But my server is top class also so...

[gornotck]

My problem with FATE is that it's not interesting, or becomes not interesting all too quickly. So far as I can tell, atma is just a way to keep people cycling lower level FATE, possibly as a way to help lower level classes level. If nothing else, it does tend to keep people in the areas, so there's always a chance that people will directly or indirectly help each other.
As for having to do certain FATE, sure, you could set up a Party Finder specifically for that purpose, but that sounds like work.

[Woggers]

^ Correct it was to boost lower level FATEs for the new players starting up with the PS4 release and Steam as well. And true again using PF or asking for help is too much work. Lol

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I wish there were new areas to explore at this point.

[L-D-Omlette]

Or you could call upon your friends/FC after it spawns to help you out?

[krazyrs]

How is it acceptable game design to have these fates which you wait forever to spawn for have a few among them which are completely impossible to solo, duo, or even trio?

Four Winds is a good example. What am I supposed to do? Gather a full party of people in an otherwise empty area, tell them to hang out and hope this fate spawns just so we can kill it? No one has the patience for that.

This is such an awful idea. I stress awful. Ugh I wanted to like this game more than this but honestly with each patch they keep pushing this grind - fate design. It's not fun at all nor is it interesting especially when your server doesn't bother w/these fates as it is.

find better friends?
got 3 ppl to hang out with me for my four winds fate + 4 chocos, downed it rather easy
of course they all migrated from XI with me and are used to the LONG SPAWN TIMES lol

[baijiazi]

Somehow i wanted the fate to affect the maps...

Like the sahagin attack on north and south gate... if failed they will take over the gate and after sometime will trigger a fate to attack the small base and to aleport.

make it so if aleport is taken ... no tele or ships are able to go there...

That will make ppl wanna take it back...

[MilesSaintboroguh]

So then how would you do things if you can't get to a town due to it being taken over?

Not to mention people rarely let FATEs fail so your idea for failure would probably never see the light of day.

[Ooshima]

OP probably might want to start joining a good FC and also a couple of good linkshells.

I agree that whilst some of the higher level fates were solo-able due to no level sync and you having overpowered gears, some are just not, like The Four Winds and some level synced bosses.

Usually I'll just call for help from FC and LS and I'll get a couple of souls who are free to help. Like wise, help them out if possible. After getting my Animus I'm still helping some of my LS mates who needed to clear certain FATEs.