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    Like Ricki said, I don't think than Thancred meant to replace Louisoix, but he does seem somewhat protective toward Minfilia, probably due to the fact they leave the leading role to a girl he took care of for a few days when she was a child (several lines of his shows his "father like" affection for her).
    Btw, Echo stories takes place 15 years before 2.0, not 20 and no Thancred is not from Limsa, all he said was that he did spent some time in Limsa when he was young with the weird ninja/pirate/wuhevah brotherhood.

    Oh one more thing, none of them have shown any sign of aging besides Minfilia, Cid just grew a beard that make him look older, F'lhaminn's glasses and clothes are what makes her look older, even tho you see her in echo most of the time in 1.0, there are some scenes during the actual present time where she does not look any older, even tho 15 years separate echo and 1.0 (the only way to make the difference is the color of her boots).
    It's actually the same for most characters like Momodi or Miounne, I think that people just age differently there than we do in the real world.
    I can't remember well but I'm pretty sure in some other thread, someone theorized that lalafell stop physically aging after a certain age (in some cutscene you can see a lalafell as a teen during an echo and later see him as an adult in present but there is no changes besides his clothes)
    But now that I start to think of it.. What if this theory is not just for lalafells but for every one in Hydealyn?
    That would explain why every one looks the same age, except for Minfilia who obviously became an adult, but since she's the only one we knew as a child, there is absolutely no way for us to know.

    Now it might just be me overthinking it but.. It does make sense ^^'''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    . . . but for every one in Hydealyn?'''
    Off the top of my head there are definitely visibly elderly hyurs in the game- the grandfather in the Dorma quest line comes to mind. I've wondered before if adult characters are not visibly ageing simply SE does not want to make a new character model for every time skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naria View Post
    Off the top of my head there are definitely visibly elderly hyurs in the game- the grandfather in the Dorma quest line comes to mind. I've wondered before if adult characters are not visibly ageing simply SE does not want to make a new character model for every time skip.
    I think you missed my point
    What I meant is that people may age slower in Hydealyn than in our world, so the fact that there are indeed old people is kinda off topic

    Or yeah SE may just be too lazy x3


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    Well I think so too but some people do think that Louisoix and Urianger were not born in this era, personally I do not agree with this idea because it simply look a bit far fetched to me but who knows, maybe they do are waaay older than the rest.
    G'Raha Tia? The name doesn't ring any bell to me xD
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    Isn't he the Miqo'te in the CT cutscenes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    G'Raha Tia? The name doesn't ring any bell to me xD
    Yes, Magis is correct; G'Raha Tia is the new Circle of Knowing member from the Crystal Tower/Labyrinth of the Ancients unlock quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    . . . I think that people just age differently there than we do in the real world.
    I can't remember well but I'm pretty sure in some other thread, someone theorized that lalafell stop physically aging after a certain age (in some cutscene you can see a lalafell as a teen during an echo and later see him as an adult in present but there is no changes besides his clothes)
    But now that I start to think of it.. What if this theory is not just for lalafells but for every one in Hydealyn?
    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    I think you missed my point What I meant is that people may age slower in Hydealyn than in our world, so the fact that there are indeed old people is kinda off topic
    When I read over your post you seemed to speculate that since Lalafells seem to stop ageing that may be true for all the other playable races as well. I was just pointing out that Hyurs at least do age. It is certainly possible that Hyur lifespans are longer than humans unlike what we have been assuming or that the game’s years are shorter etc since we don’t really have much of that context right now.

    EDIT: . . . For some reason I'm recalling that there was info from the Dev's about Hydaelyn's year. Does anyone remember/have a link or am I just misremembering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naria View Post
    EDIT: . . . For some reason I'm recalling that there was info from the Dev's about Hydaelyn's year.
    I buy in to the idea that years are 'short', mostly because the years follow a lunar calendar, not a solar one. The world shows minimal effects of 'seasons', so it makes sense that a solar year wouldn't have meaning to them, but that leaves us no idea how long their year is relative to what we think of as a year. It could be remarkably shorter or longer than their rotational period. I think the dev note you're mentioning is the statement that years are made up of twelve lunar months, an Astral and Umbral month of each element. Theorized elsewhere in the Lore forums, though I don't remember where, is the idea that an "Astral" month centers around a full moon and an "Umbral" around a New Moon, which make sense. If that's the case, Hydaelyn's year is made up of six full lunar cycles, broken into Astral and Umbral months.
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    That said, it makes sense that the races would have different life spans and it's possible all might live longer than humans, but given the rate at which things change and events develop mythologies and knowledge of things is utterly lost, I'd say very few of the races exceed one hundred Hydaelyn years. I think one of the reasons most people are young is that in a world like this, old age isn't the thing most likely to kill you; monsters and war probably are the top killers in Eorzea. And for aging, it could be in part that the changes in appearance over five, or even fifteen years are not hugely dramatic for a lot of people, but I think mostly it a convenience thing from SE's perspective - it both is convenient on the graphics team and is easy from a narrative setting as well. Everyone knows Cid is Cid before even Cid does, because he looks like Cid; narrative simplicity.

    Sorry for double-post. Limits on text entry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post

    Oh one more thing, none of them have shown any sign of aging besides Minfilia, Cid just grew a beard that make him look older, F'lhaminn's glasses and clothes are what makes her look older, even tho you see her in echo most of the time in 1.0, there are some scenes during the actual present time where she does not look any older, even tho 15 years separate echo and 1.0 (the only way to make the difference is the color of her boots).
    idk! her hair seems white to me now. in 1.0, she was definitely blonde!
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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    idk! her hair seems white to me now. in 1.0, she was definitely blonde!
    Are you talking about Minfilia or F´lhaminn?
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