Loot Restrictions On i90 and Above Gear/Weapons

[KyteStones]

So here's a small little rant, and maybe something could be done about this..but here it goes:

Leviathan Extreme, 5 clears so far. 3 out of the 5 the people didnt need themwhich were the SCH book , the SMN book and the WAR axe. Out of those each different group a party member who either didn;t have the class even leveled or had it around level 9 won the greed roll.

Most of these people never plan on leveling because they only had their sub class to 15 and nothing else leveled...

Is there any way a loot restriction can be placed for those who don't have the proper level character to be able to greed? I know this sounds more selfish but for the people who could actually use the items get screwed by those who have no intent on ever leveling them..

[KaitlynOfOz]

I think I would be happier if the loot tables reflected the party makeup. If there isn't a SMN in the party, her book won't drop, no brd no bow, etc. I don't think you will ever get a setup where you have restrictions on "you must be this high" to need/greed an item, which is probably for the best since everyone can be every job even if they choose not to. I take issue to the people who beg for a party to let them have a drop for an alt when there are several people with current mains who could use the item (for ex a sch asking for a helm for his blm when there are 3 blms in the party who want the item). Loot tables based on active party members I think is a more reasonable goal.

[KyteStones]

I think I would be happier if the loot tables reflected the party makeup. If there isn't a SMN in the party, her book won't drop, no brd no bow, etc. I don't think you will ever get a setup where you have restrictions on "you must be this high" to need/greed an item, which is probably for the best since everyone can be every job even if they choose not to. I take issue to the people who beg for a party to let them have a drop for an alt when there are several people with current mains who could use the item (for ex a sch asking for a helm for his blm when there are 3 blms in the party who want the item). Loot tables based on active party members I think is a more reasonable goal.

While I respect and understand your standpoint, i dont see a problme with gear being dropped for classes that arent there. For example, for people who want to farm the runs for alts, they would never get the chance to if they didnt have it properly geared to get in the instance. I'm cool with it dropping other weapons for people who already have the item and for classes who arent there, its the whole "LAWL i down even have that class leveled past 5. Oh look i got it, im out, later" and leaves the party. Just rude to me.

[Lurkios]

I think I would be happier if the loot tables reflected the party makeup. If there isn't a SMN in the party, her book won't drop, no brd no bow, etc.

It would certainly make it a lot easier to get loot for your mains, especially if the tables changed to accomodate situations like 4 bards by increasing the bow drop chance by 4. However, it would completely destroy getting gear for your alts, or just hoping for gear drops no one can need for you to sell for seals or put on the MB. Half my income from hm/ex roullette is in that form, would hate to see it go away.

[Jinko]

I think I would be happier if the loot tables reflected the party makeup..

Same here.

It would certainly make it a lot easier to get loot for your mains, especially if the tables changed to accomodate situations like 4 bards by increasing the bow drop chance by 4. However, it would completely destroy getting gear for your alts, or just hoping for gear drops no one can need for you to sell for seals or put on the MB. Half my income from hm/ex roullette is in that form, would hate to see it go away.

If you wana gear an alt play the alt maybe, of course this could potentially worsen the DPS DF queues lol.

You can still make decent seal on greeding gear.

That being said I wouldn't be opposed to locking out players who don't have a class within 10 levels of the item being rolled on either ... maybe locking them out entirely is a bit harsh but it should definitely favour the person who has the class in question levelled and can use the item.

[Seif]

I think I would be happier if the loot tables reflected the party makeup. If there isn't a SMN in the party, her book won't drop, no brd no bow, etc. I don't think you will ever get a setup where you have restrictions on "you must be this high" to need/greed an item, which is probably for the best since everyone can be every job even if they choose not to. I take issue to the people who beg for a party to let them have a drop for an alt when there are several people with current mains who could use the item (for ex a sch asking for a helm for his blm when there are 3 blms in the party who want the item). Loot tables based on active party members I think is a more reasonable goal.

Now that's a suggestion that actually makes sense. Can't get behind the OP's argument however.

[Rhysati]

Everyone has the ability to level every class up if and when they choose to. Just because they don't have that class leveled yet doesn't mean they won't. Heck, that might even encourage them to level that class next.

In the end, if you want that particular loot, play as that class. If you aren't, then you have no more right to it than anyone else. Thems the rules.

[WellFooled]

I appreciate where you're coming from, but I prefer the system as it is, in fact I think its almost perfect. The way it is now gives everyone's different "greeds" equal priority.

One person might want it, like you do, for a leveled off class and another person might just want it for a collection, like I do...both are given an equal chance to win it because both are equality important to the two players. If the system was changed to give priority to one over the other it would basically be saying one player's wants are more important than another player's wants.

I'd recommend asking ahead to see if your group would be willing to let you snag a particularly piece, that usually works for me.

[Musashidon]

i have the right to roll on any items i please, even if i didn't level it you don't deserve the item any more then i do and vice versa.

[rhemi1]

i have the right to roll on any items i please, even if i didn't level it you don't deserve the item any more then i do and vice versa.

I sincerely hope I never have the 'pleasure' of grouping with you, then.