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  1. #11
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    Arcaloid's Avatar
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    Arcana Holo
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Good news is, primals and coil offers great challenge.
    Roulette is for level up and reward.
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  2. #12
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Character
    Syanonn Rias
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    The roulette is not suppose to be challenging for geared people. It is just busy work for you to farm mythology/soldiery.

    However, there are people that just hit 50 and don't have the gear. And this is the purpose of the roulette, for the more geared and experienced people to help and teach the newer people on how to run these dungeons.
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  3. #13
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I remember all the whine on this forum about people regretting ever unlocking PS and that immediatly RQd after it popped. I can tell you that there were RQing over that instance popping. Especially if someone was new.

    Another reason why it is faceroll is that the new dungeons are on the same iLvl as the other ones in a world where iLvl90 is the new DL.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  4. #14
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Character
    Luna Nattvind
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcaloid View Post
    Good news is, primals and coil offers great challenge.
    Roulette is for level up and reward.
    Or do they? Echo wants a talk with you 50% boost is ridiculous. You can not die unless party fails on mechanics.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  5. #15
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Character
    Asrah Stone
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    Or do they? Echo wants a talk with you 50% boost is ridiculous. You can not die unless party fails on mechanics.
    its currently only 10%
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  6. #16
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    SockPoo's Avatar
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    Character
    Ultima Implosion
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    I would definitely like some harder 4 man content. I don't even know how people are having trouble with pharos when fights are easier to control when there's less people to mess up.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taban View Post
    They noticed that 3/4 of the playerbase immediately quit out of pharos when it popped.
    Or did not even unlock it. I did not run Pharos till 2.2 when I was forced to if i wanted the roulette bonuses for that set.

    Friend never unlocked Mannor or Copperbell hard for the same reason. While these two areas were no where near as bad as Pharos they were still very hit or miss when it came to DPS that could actually clear the bosses. Basically another casualty of SE and setting iLVL's drastically to low.
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  8. #18
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    Kyros's Avatar
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    Character
    Odiron Dulmare
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    My main complain is that there is nothing "Expert" about the new dungeons. They about as difficult as WP which is the entry-level dungeon. Heck, even the original Amdapor was harder. Actually scratch that, WP's tons could wipe parties, this dungeons are even easier.

    Personally, I wish they kept the top roulette actually challenging and let the other dungeons be the myth/soldiery farm dungeons. Also, they should have just moved pharos into Expert roulette and changed myth/soldiery accordingly instead of nerfing it to hell.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Monkey Nutz
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    I don't think roulette is supposed to offer much challenge exactly; it would actually be a terrible idea if dungeons were supposed to be farmed repeatedly (to hit weekly soldiery cap and load up on as much myth as possible for animus and other endeavors) and be especially challenging. I do think this game suffers from a lack of content that encourages, let alone requires, concentrated group effort. Coil is great and all, but with the weekly lockout most of your game time is probably spent capping tomes. Personally I think they need to have at least 2 active raids in the expansion (or sooner if they can manage it), if not 3. I don't really count CT as an active raid since it's designed to offer slightly weaker gear than the other after a 3 month delay.
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  10. #20
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    Buster Posey
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Players didn't leave PS because it was hard. Other dungeons was just way more efficient which made PS obsolete.
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