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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Most dps dont really care as to how usefull to a party they are, they dps because OMG LOOK AT DEM NUMBAHS.

    Despite the fact that overal monk and dragoon blow them out of the water, the biggest single hits come from BLM.
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    Vergil Savickas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    Most dps dont really care as to how usefull to a party they are, they dps because OMG LOOK AT DEM NUMBAHS.

    Despite the fact that overal monk and dragoon blow them out of the water, the biggest single hits come from BLM.
    I have yet to see any monk or dragoon out DPS me honestly. Always number one on the DPS scale here. They don't blow anyone out opf the water. While a monk or dragoon need to constantly shift their direction of attack from flank, to behind to flank again etc, im just standing there blowing stuff up. I don't need to be in a special area to get a 150 potency hit. To be honest, many BLM's that I come in contact with don't know how to be a BLM. Opening Turn 4 with flare? Just because you see a lot of BLM's doesn't mean they know how to play the class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Because BLM (and BRD) are braindead simple to play.
    Actually, to keep your DPS as high as possible, it's not just spam Fire 1, there's a ton more to the BLM than you understand. Also if you know anything about bard, you'd know that most bards don't play as their intended role. A support class. But judging from your character on the lodestone, someone who has a lv1 THM and and lv4 ARC should hush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    Just because you see a lot of BLM's doesn't mean they know how to play the class.


    And just because 90% of melee players dont play their class properly doesnt divert from the fact that in single target (you know...BOSS fights) the melee classes are #1 and #2.

    Congratulations, you can aoe trash mobs effectively, how are you on the Dreads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    And just because 90% of melee players dont play their class properly doesnt divert from the fact that in single target (you know...BOSS fights) the melee classes are #1 and #2.

    Congratulations, you can aoe trash mobs effectively, how are you on the Dreads?
    Dreadnoughts probably aren't the best example, given that they don't move >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    I have yet to see any monk or dragoon out DPS me honestly. Always number one on the DPS scale here. They don't blow anyone out opf the water. While a monk or dragoon need to constantly shift their direction of attack from flank, to behind to flank again etc, im just standing there blowing stuff up. I don't need to be in a special area to get a 150 potency hit. To be honest, many BLM's that I come in contact with don't know how to be a BLM. Opening Turn 4 with flare? Just because you see a lot of BLM's doesn't mean they know how to play the class.

    Ill say the same to you, except for trash heavy fights like t4, theres no reason a monk or dragoon who knows their class should ever be behind the black mage in dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
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    Lol. You haven't played with a good Monk or Dragoon then. Monk and Dragoons (and Summoners, for that matter) all blow Black Mage out of the water when it comes to pure DPS when played correctly.

    And you're right, it's not just spam Fire I, but our main rotation is incredibly simple in comparison to the other classes, I wish it wasn't, as it gives people a good reason to say why our potential DPS lacks in comparison DRG/MNK/SMN, but it is how it is. The most complex BLM gets is simply understanding the mana tick timings. That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    The most complex BLM gets is simply understanding the mana tick timings. That's it.
    False. The most complex thing about blm is understanding each fight and how to cast your long ass spells around the mob/bosses/targets timing and abilities. This is what people don't understand about BLM. They think its easy because of the crux of our rotation is two abilities. But there are way more little nuances about BLM that can seriously hinder your dps if you don't anticipate whats coming next and set up properly. How many times have you seen a blm have a long as spell interrupted because they got LOS by the mob they originally target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    The most complex thing about blm is understanding each fight and how to cast your long ass spells around the mob/bosses/targets timing and abilities. How many times have you seen a blm have a long as spell interrupted because they got LOS by the mob they originally target?
    Are you one of those blm that tries starting a fight with flare or something? None of your spells should take that long to cast once you get into your rotation. Not even flare. If you are sitting and waiting for a 3.25-3.75 second cast time, you are doing something wrong
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    Are you one of those blm that tries starting a fight with flare or something? None of your spells should take that long to cast once you get into your rotation. Not even flare. If you are sitting and waiting for a 3.25-3.75 second cast time, you are doing something wrong
    Some guy was trolling me on Caduceus by doing this. Before we kicked him (he was being quite abrasive in chat anyway) I said "pulling" moved up a couple steps and he started casting Flare. I let him get the cast off without doing anything and let him tank Cad for a few seconds. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Some guy was trolling me on Caduceus by doing this. Before we kicked him (he was being quite abrasive in chat anyway) I said "pulling" moved up a couple steps and he started casting Flare. I let him get the cast off without doing anything and let him tank Cad for a few seconds. :P
    heheh.

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