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    FIX the AUCTION HOUSE!!!!

    hey everyone im getting really tired of getting undercut every 1-10min not just by 1gil but 1k 2k 10k and so on... the AH system is really bad in this game i wish they would make it a little different. if you agree with this please click like and leave your comment here, so hopefully with a lot likes maybe SE would do something and fix this terrible system please leave your ideas. my idea would be like is was in FF11 but maybe others wont like it, but please leave your ideas and lets talk friendly


    CLICK LIKE! IF U WANT THIS TO BE CHANGE help this cat out


    Quote Originally Posted by Skapoc View Post
    Simple solution is a listing fee that GW2 did. When you list an item you pay a fee based on how much you put the item up for. If at any point you want to change the price or take the item down you do not receive the listing fee back and must pay again when you put it back up.

    This will strait up stop the undercutting war as person A who listed first and then got undercut would not risk losing more money trying to undercut person B who undercut them just to sell faster. This also forces people to pay attention to buying trends and list certain items at reasonable prices.
    This idea will work perfect i think what they should do is for the first time you put an item it will cost u 0 but and still take the tax from u but if u want to change the same item that is in the market for another prince then you have to pay a extra fee for doing that i believe it will help the Market


    Quote Originally Posted by theflo84 View Post
    There needs to be lets say 3 hours or more where you cannot Change your Price. This will help a little bit i think.
    i like this ideas making it that you cant change the price, that's a big problem here u can change it when ever you want which make undercutting constantly

    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    XI's AH was far supperior to this one in terms of keeping the economy stable. In the history of mmos XI's ah had the most stable prices over a period of time, they fluctuated but only by like 5-10% over the course of a year (not counting the RMT christmas inflation). XIV what is 10k today will be selling for 1k when you wake up...

    XIV everyone undercuts everyone. The argument it is supply and demand does not apply to a mmo where people are just blindly undercutting with no knowledge of the market.

    IRL cost go down because there is no demand for the items. In XIV it goes down because someone is way to impatient to wait 1hr for it to sell at full value. So they undercut by 10% so the others selling have to do the same.
    IRL no one would undercut to the point of a net loss, in XIV half the items in 2.1 were selling for a net loss.

    No economy is perfect, but in all the mmos I played I have never seen a market as horribly volital as XIV is.
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    Last edited by Oriana; 04-26-2014 at 06:07 AM.

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    Wait, are you talking about Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn or The Elder Scrolls Online? I'm not sure if you are serious.
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    oh I got it!

    undercut them back! they'll never see it coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    Wait, are you talking about Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn or The Elder Scrolls Online? I'm not sure if you are serious.
    huh? why would i talk about TESO here??? and yes im serious

    Quote Originally Posted by jars View Post
    oh I got it!

    undercut them back! they'll never see it coming!
    yes i can do that but thats not the point it just so stupid how the under-cutting is taking place in this game
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    There isn't a remedy to fix this.

    It's the same in any game with an Auction House actually.

    There are always a number of people with severe brain damage who think; "This is up for 50K...but wait IF I SELL MINE FOR 40K IT'LL SELL FASTER".*
    These people actually exist, and somehow believe this, and there is no remedy.


    As long as players are allowed to set whatever price they want, there is nothing anyone can do about it.




    *If you are one of these people, consider the following;

    Bob wants a 'Bronze Saw'.

    Currently 20 listings are up for saws;

    Bronze Saw

    3,000 g -- imanidiot <--- This one is yours.
    4,999 g -- iunderstandbasicmath
    5,000 g -- idontundercutbythousands
    5,001 g -- ilikemakingmoney
    5,100 g -- ironicretainername#5
    Now. Bob want his 'Bronze Saw', it doen't matter which one to him, he really needs it to get his Carpentry done.

    Bob buys yours for 3,000g as it's the cheapest.However

    Had you'd set yours to 4998g Bob would still have bought it.

    You've now lost out on 1998g in total. And also left yourself open to be undercut further lowering the value of the item faster than people can actually purchase them.




    This is how market crashes happen, where something that's worth 5,000g gets undercut by large chunks in a short period of time because, let's face it at ANY time someone could undercut your price. And by undercutting 1-2k gil you can be sure it won't be worth anything soon.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 04-13-2014 at 01:05 PM.

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    It's not really SE's job to fix how people price things...
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    The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it..

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    I looked for an Auction House, seems we dont have one.
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    There are ways to decal with this. Buy theirs and then put it back up at the right price. You have to out more work in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
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    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Still, even though i undercut by 1 gil, ... it can be a bit of a chore to sift through 80 items one at a time.
    The reality is that even if you don't undercut at all, your stuff will mostly sell eventually ... mostly.
    You just won't make as much gil as fast.
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    Make it happen.

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    It's called capitalism.
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