If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

[Bluevann]

I'm really glad of this feature. My FC is very small and it will be a while still before we can afford even an M house (we're at 1.2M only), so all the plots will likely be taken when we'll have the cash. This gives me some hope.

[joshsecret]

i have nothing new to add to this debate other than one more person's objection to this plan. 35 days is too short. 60-90 days i could see but 35? i get the argument that people will complain no matter how many days they set forth but what concerns me more is the future implementation for personal housing.

im just glad knowing this now. the idea of putting in months and months of time scrimping and saving the 15 mil to afford a Medium house only for it to vanish if i ever decide to take more than a month off would really burn my hide.

i am not the typical FC, mine is a solo one, so i understand that by trying to work around the system that there would be repercussions but this is just one less thing to look forward to. i forgot to edit my CC info in time and ended up subbing for another 6 months. i have realized that even numbered patches are just not for me. my plan was to just deal with it but take 2.4 off. not everyone's end-game is coil and the idea of losing my end-game because i decided to take a patch off really makes me re-think some things.

and to be clear, i wouldnt ask or demand anything be changed for my snowflake self. i am impatient and wanted a house. but if they are going to implement this for a feature that has less than 1% the demand of personal housing then what else can i expect in the future?

[FJerome]

Alternately, can we just move to instanced land for all housing so we can avoid this issue entirely?

[mbncd]

i have nothing new to add to this debate other than one more person's objection to this plan. 35 days is too short. 60-90 days i could see but 35? i get the argument that people will complain no matter how many days they set forth but what concerns me more is the future implementation for personal housing.

Exactly how I feel.

I'm in 2 FC's. My main is in a small FC with long term game friends (we've been together since the 1.xx days, but not a lot of us are regularly active and even less of us regularly visit the house until it serves more practical purposes) and my alts are in an FC of their own (for increased storage and easier transfering of items between them). As such, I can easily see both sides of this one. My main FC will honestly not have much of a problem having at least 1 person in the house once a month, whereas if for any reason I'm off for a month I'd lose my private FC's house once it gets one (with only one actual player, and only occasionally at that, I've not ranked it up high enough yet but plan on having a small house for it eventually). I'm also aware that taking so long to get my house will mean almost every other FC on the server that started at the same time will have earlier pickings for good plots than I when it comes time for me to actually try to find an empty plot of my own.

I am of the mind that yes, houses should be automatically cleared out if they are not being used. However, I also recognise the effort put into earning one, especially for the smallest of FC's that can't split the burden (both in earning the gil and the FC ranks) with others so much, and I don't think that that effort should be dismissed so easily. It doesn't matter if you think someone "deserves" their house, they earned it fair and square.

As such, I agree with the others who have suggested 60-90 day minimums instead of the proposed 35 days. That way, there'll still be a fairly rapid turn over of inactive plots back to being available as they should be if they're needed, but smaller FC's won't feel pressured to prioritise the game over real life if they have real reasons not to log in for an extended period (I mean who really doesn't know what it's like to stop studying/working in a hectic time of year to log into a game "for a minute", only to find they've lost a day and may not be able to catch back up? Whether it's tax time or exam time or Christmas time, there's only so many hours in the day and people don't tend to work all night and day for fun but rather because deadlines push the best of us!).

Ideally, the best solution would be more server space but if they won't do that, more time is the next best thing. Not unlimited more but a more reasonable period of 2-3 months.

[AmalahRose]

I think the 35 days is a bit short but I can see why they want this system. Eventually, far in the future some FCs that were once active will drift away. Some players will leave to join other FCs others will quit the game completely. The wards should be lively neighbourhoods, but without a way for land to be passed on to active players they could one day be ghost towns.

[Karnyboy]

If you can't log on ONCE in 35 days to keep your house then you need neither a subscription or holding a plot of land from others. Simple as that. I'm understanding in knowing life gets in the way, but not for 24/7 35 days in a row. Now you're just being dramatic.

[lackofwords]

If you can't log on ONCE in 35 days to keep your house then you need neither a subscription or holding a plot of land from others. Simple as that. I'm understanding in knowing life gets in the way, but not for 24/7 35 days in a row. Now you're just being dramatic.

You might feel that way, but others might not.
What you're kinda saying, and SE as well, is that an FC is good as dead if no one in it is active within a 35 day period.

I for one have always liked to play either every other month, or maybe even take a 2 month break or return upon a large patch update. I'm a bit more pragmatic with my subscription, if I'm not playing I wouldn't bother subscribing. Luckily, I'm in a large enough FC that they pretty much have active members cycling in.

I don't doubt there are people out there who started FCs with their close friends to only have people take a break or have the small FC dwindle away, but this is in the player's control, and still is.
However, the aspect of housing plot to be reclaimed to the public domain in 35 days gives an ultimatum for FC's time of death.

Granted that they aren't straight up disbanding any FC, but they have calculated this is the end-life span of an active FC before it dies from inactivity.
Similar to how they've once decided if you're not playing the game within a 3 month period, you are most likely are never going to play again, thus forfeiting your account to be deleted.

[Lurkios]

35 days seems way too short. What about folks in the Armed Forces that have gone over seas? They can be deployed for months at a time with no Internet access at all. Why shouldn't they have their house when they come back?

[Lord_Zlatan]

like most things in life, this is a COMMITMENT.

if you cannot commit to keeping, going to, maintaining your house, then don't waste your time, your FCs time or the gil on something you can't be bothered to stay committed to.

This is precisely the reason I have no desire to have a house. I know I will have zero commitment to it and it will just be another inventory space, at which point id rather use a paid retainer.

[Sadana]

Will we need to subscribe on a monthly basis ...?

This is, in fact, exactly what SE wants from people. I'm surprised people expect anything else. If you quit subscribing for a length of time, it does nothing for them as a business.

I agree that 35 days is really short. 60 would be better as others have suggested. Housing wards on Atomos are all nearly full. If you want a small house, you are SOL. So I can see SE being interested in making active players happy by having more housing available. What is sad is that, I'm guessing due to server issues, they have to take houses from inactive FCs instead of adding new wards to make this happen. :/