The future of MMO business

[Kirosuu]

for me
p2w is when you pay to access certain dungeon/OP class/job/race or strongest weapon while other user cant access it

i can accept expansion need to pay or some cash shop weapon can be bought to give early boost but strongest equipment can be get from in game
even exp boost,inventory slot,vault slot is acceptable and SE is not the first company give player to 'rent monthly' slot space

retainer system for 2$ is worth but i wont pay for it bec my 2 retainer already enough for vault slot, retainer venture is great bec can give random item or help farm other item

*dont bash me*

[Terius]

No point in talking about it. Die hard fans just shout you down with "its not like its a weapon!" lick SE's boots and orgasm that they get to pay them money.

[Deepice]

I work really hard for my money don't you, i want to enjoy the game.

[mindful]

Simple with the right monthly subs destroys, The the peer pressure that you pay to win. You will pay the same amount on a free to play or free to win games ( with the avg amount of users) . Just sucks!.

Some how the kids now days feels . It should have all been cheated or given to them. They forgot what was the social part of mmo's were about.

They lost the ways of the fact it only a game and you enjoy it and actually met some friends or be like omfg I met some cool people or get life lesson that some tiimes they move on , but down the road there always there. Unless there a ************** , then you move on.

[lxSch]

As a f2p user (most of mmos i played were f2p) you need to pay $100+ a month just to stay competitive, $500+ a month to win. My guess - they want to merge two models with a player base of p2p games (very large base) and monthly fee of f2p games (very large fee thus small online).

[Xeonerable_Mizu]

You'e overthinking too much.

my thoughts exactly

[Jedgar]

You are paying for more inventory and more slots to put items on the AH..... The same thing they had you do in FFXI when you wanted an extra character except there it was one dollar extra a month instead of two. But then again you had a lot less inventory space and AH slots. All I can say is get over it and move on. Pay for your retainers or don't. Either way you still have access to Coils.

[Kiara1]

I don't mind paying for vanity items so I'd love if they added a vanity shop

[Arkista]

what if they come tomorrow and ask for more? like heres an expansion but the new race/class/job is locked for the people who pre-order it or pay extra 20$, would you accept this?

and dont tell me they wont do it, WoW did it, ESO did it.

How hard is it to pre order a game? Paying an Extra $20 depends on what I get extra. As for FFXIV and Expansions I'm pretty sure it will follow FFXI and people are going to pay for them and if you don't you don't get anything, And I doubt that SE will force player to pay extra money outside of buying an expansion just to unlock a class or content.

As for ESO I'm sure after a few weeks or months the Items from the collectors edition will be for sale. Its called making money. They are looking at it like this, "Lets add items to a collectors edition only and people will Buy More and then after a few weeks we'll just sell each Craft/Class/Items for $2.99-5.99 each". Its like going to Gamestop and pre ordering a game some give you Bonus items, If you don't pre order then you don't get, But after a few weeks they are available for purchase.

As for FFXIV I could really care less what they add for sale long as its basically vanity, Like extra Retainers its not an advantage. Yes you get more space and can sell 20 extra slots but its not game breaking, I can get 12 more retainers for free, I just have to put in a little extra work. Now if SE wants to add ilvl200 Weapon/Gears that aren't vanity then I will have a problem. Paying for Hair Styles, Phantasia Potions, Name Change, Minion, Mounts, and gear that is only for Vanity is all fine by me.

[Dyvid]

Making mountains out of mole hills aren't we? I hate to break it to you but purchasing more retainers was on the tables long before the game relaunched. The original design team saw that people purchased extra character in FFXI to just be mules and wanted to add that to FFXIV. The way the game is designed now, you can't buy more character to be mule so you have retainers.