Suggestion to avoid those lovely people who quit dungeon soon as they enter....

[OrganizationXIll]

If I were to say any zone had a "Don't want to be a dick but damn do I want to bail on this zone" it is AV and even Pharos after nerf. I never even unlocked Pharos before 2.2. Ran it once because I was FORCED to (good job SE) and it was still hard and no where on par with other dungeons. The 3 new ones in 2.2 are crap tons easier.

What he said.

I never ran it on my character prior to 2.2. I ran it on my cousins account to see what it was like. (did it with all HMHM and CBHM too) I decided to not unlock it and then SE forced me to and the patch made it easier yes, but not fun. I can do it, I just don't want to. I hate it.

[Evil_Betox]

If you really hate a dungeon you might as well avoid the specific roulette that contains the dungeon you hate, lately i got tired of the main scenarios dungeons (just got bored of them, nothing else) so instead of running the main scenario roulette i can just make 2 runs in Brayflox and/or Halatali (which are incredibly fun dungeons) and receive the same amount of tomes. I'm glad there's always a better option available if there's something i don't like.

[SummonerSenah]

It's much easier post nerf. The issue is that the entitled crowd would rather run something faster with better rewards. Why run Pharos when you can run Brayflox HM? It never occurs to those kind of players that they are being selfish when they drop a dungeon for that reason and leave people hanging. Or maybe it does occur to them and they just don't care. Either way, nothing they do to Pharos or Cutter's Cry or AV or SV will make those players stay. Really you're better off letting them leave and getting a tank/healer/dps that will stay the course.

[Akoree]

I'm pretty sure that players like you are the reason people leave dungeons in the first place. =) Pharos Sirius sucks.

Players like me make people make people wish they were on the same server because of how I'm not a huge **** and I do the following things:

1) Stay and complete dungeons which most people seem to think are too long and too difficult.

2) Make fights easier because I'm a good player.

3) Have a positive attitude and help others when they have difficulty with certain mechanics.

Those things promote good fun and painless sessions to everyone in the group. While as you simply promote selfishness and laziness. =)

Pharos Sirius is easy pie, so much so that I've completed it with a group of near-full AF players pre-nerf with no wipes.

[OrganizationXIll]

Players like me make people make people wish they were on the same server because of how I'm not a huge **** and I do the following things:

1) Stay and complete dungeons which most people seem to think are too long and too difficult.

2) Make fights easier because I'm a good player.

3) Have a positive attitude and help others when they have difficulty with certain mechanics.

Those things promote good fun and painless sessions to everyone in the group. While as you simply promote selfishness and laziness. =)

Pharos Sirius is easy pie, so much so that I've completed it with a group of near-full AF players pre-nerf with no wipes.

1) It's just not fun to me. I play the game to have fun. Pharos Sirius is not it.
2) Debatable since it's incredibly relative.
3) I help with mechanics too. Enough that I have 437 commendations without guildhest farming. I just refuse to do it on dungeons that I find unbearably boring and tedious.

Congrats on the pre-nerf kill. I still hate it.

[Akoree]

1) It's just not fun to me. I play the game to have fun. Pharos Sirius is not it.

Then don't queue for that roulette anymore and let the good players of this game enjoy the small challenge which is Pharos Sirius without having to deal with quitters that would rather auto-run through easy dungeons while they stuff their faces with chips and watch T.V., because we all know the FUN in a game is to barely play it at all.

If you and other like-minded players do that, there won't be a need for Square Enix to even implement a feature to reprimand players who quit dungeons as they start. And everyone will be happy.

=)

[LOLyYOUcryin]

dont like it? go level a tank. simple. I pay my monthly bill. not you i will continue to leave any dungeons i dont like. dont like that? then keep waiting 30-1hr on your dps.

[OrganizationXIll]

Then don't queue for that roulette anymore and let the good players of this game enjoy the small challenge which is Pharos Sirius without having to deal with quitters that would rather auto-run through easy dungeons while they stuff their faces with chips and watch T.V., because we all know the FUN in a game is to barely play it at all.

If you and other like-minded players do that, there won't be a need for Square Enix to even implement a feature to reprimand players who quit dungeons as they start. And everyone will be happy.

=)

So, you are saying I should not bother getting my 50 bonus myth because they are trying to force me to run a dungeon that they failed to make enjoyable? I enjoy the Hard Modes. Haukke and Copperbell are fun. Pharos Sirius isn't. I wish I wasn't forced to do it to do my high level roulette. They screwed up making it and are now shoving it down our throats.

I enjoy the game fine. I like harder content. Coil is amazing. Extremes are fun and challenging. (Can't do titan at my house because of my trash connection speed.) They just need to scrap it and cut their losses because I will never do it again and I am not the only one.

[Drako]

[Niwashi]

I usually leave when I end up 3 or 4 time in a row in a boring instance (like satasha or toto rak) or with another well geared tank in a main story roulette (no point having 2 tanks in CM or praetorium). Not because it's slow, not because of the other players in the group. Just because it's plain boring.

Instead of trying to force people to do boring content that I was already farming 6 month ago with my eyes closed people should ask themselves why players would leave these instances?

If it's too boring to do the run, then you shouldn't be queuing for that run. DF will never put you into any dungeon that you haven't queued for. Nobody's forcing you to do it. You chose to yourself.

No matter what somebody's reasons are for not liking a particular dungeon (too boring, too hard, too long, or whatever) they make that decision when they join the queue. Once the DF pops and puts you into the dungeon it's too late to decide you don't like it.

I enjoy the Hard Modes. Haukke and Copperbell are fun. Pharos Sirius isn't. I wish I wasn't forced to do it to do my high level roulette.

The same applies to you. If Haukke and Copperbell are the ones you find fun, then queue for Haukke and Copperbell. Nobody is forcing you to queue for Pharos Sirius or for a roulette that includes Pharos Sirius. If you choose to queue for it, that's up to you. But once you do decide to queue for it, you're agreeing to run it.