Tanking baby

[Killabye]

I'm by no means anywhere near Coil (didn'T even set foot in Turn 1 yet, though that's largely due to all groups shouting for "exp only" which I don't feel I have even after watching vids) and I can't understand how so many people have problems?""

I'm only talking coil and beyond. If your not even doing coil then idk. I actually leveled drg just for coil because they talked so much trash during T1 so now I pre run with my dragoon to learn fights which is a good point by itself since I don't need a video to win with my drg. You guys took the five wipe thing out of context. Titan hm my first time I wiped in DF quite a few times, same for coil with random groups. Now you say waste peoples time. Is that how the creators feel? You think they made the game so rather than learning the mechanics you just watch a video?

[Killabye]

Do not judge other tank on FATE experience. You know, half of those "average" tanks was most likely solo or in random party w/o healer.""

I was too lol. The great thing about tank is you can see when they try to provoke off you. The funny thing about playing war and pal is pulling aggro off a Palidin with a war on a single boss. If you've done ct you know saying tanks aren't trying to have pissing test over aggro is a lie

[Killabye]

Wow you guys all bombed on me except 2 my last 3 brayfloxs hms were 25, 21, 22 min. 22 with my FC. When we did the final boss on city of Ampador I held the party together. I was the one that saw the doors colors and pairs even though I was tanking. They voted to abandon like 3 times about 2 hours after patch. That's being a bad gamer, not trying to learn the fight on your own. And yea, I am a dick to most parties because if you don't check them they whine. Know what I do when I pull aggro with my drg and my 7 hit macro? I backflip to lose aggro or switch targets or stop attacking. What do other dps do? Whine whine whine. Maybe it is me being too mean, I'm just giving what I've gotten though.

[marksierens]

thats part of being a tank, take a project manager for example his job is like a tanks too, he gets blamed from both sides.

[marksierens]

when u become a great tank, people will want you and i must say that feels great since there little good tanks out there. from the negative comments even tho theyre negative u must look for whats good in them to better yourself u must want to learn. if ur not willing to take advice or take blame itll become very hard to learn to tank well

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

I completely agree with you, Killabye.

Everyone learns different ways, and not everyone can learn and get the fight down by just watching a video. Do you learn to draw by watching a video on how to draw? No. It takes practice and practice. (I use this example because I'm an artist). I am one of those persons that has to actually do the fight in order to learn it. Sure, I watch videos to get the basics, but you will still make mistakes. Watching a video is not the same as experiencing the fight.

Some people are truly impatient and that's what my problem is, too. I cannot learn the fight because people are just impatient and expect you to know it all. On top of that, they are rude. I've seen this so much once I started playing a tank job (my main has been WHM), and they do get a lot of shit and that's in dungeons, I can't even think about end game as a tank. However, I'm not gonna quit a job I like just because of the toxic community. I pay for the game so I have the right to play the jobs I want.
You can say "just go do it with people you know first" but not everyone is available at the same times. Unfortunately, you have to actually play with strangers in order to get things done, isn't this the reason why this is a MMORPG in the first place? Where did that good experience of meeting new people and downing things together, helping each other out, go? Now everyone is just so... individualistic and selfish.

So all of us have to deal with each other, might as well get along, we both win. Or don't get along and we both stress and lose. People do not deserve to be treated like shit. These are my thoughts.

[marksierens]

before all these new dungeons and all we had to farm was wanderers palace, as a warrior tank before the buff people always told me u cant do this u cant do that because youre a warrior, well one of those things was speed running wanderes palace. u know the last hall where u pull everything, i did it with my warrior eventhou everyone said u cant. keep testing ur limit. also enrage mode ppl keep saying u cant do it with 2 tanks, yes u can im proof of that it is not necessary but its a good example

[Killabye]

Idk I've seen better than me and worse. My drg was my highest leveled character for a long time. The ones better than me use macros better and talk more, the ones worse are much much worse. That's just on dungeon length and wipes. I mean I have 200 commendations, that's not much but almost all came as tank. This IS my first mmo but I've played all the roles like everyone else. Even when I'm heals or dps they gang up on the tank.

[Killabye]

Thank you Tyla lol, it's not that I've never watched a video, I just can't learn a fight by doing it. I don't have that kind of memory. As a tank you get people that haven't watched videos too. I've never told anyone they need to watch a video, I usually won't even give instructions unless they ask. If we wipe once or twice for them to learn that's fine, it's a game for a reason. Personally I'd be mad if I bought a game and beat the final boss first try. If he didn't beat me a couple times then was he really a final boss type of challenge?

[FurryFury]

Everyone learns different ways, and not everyone can learn and get the fight down by just watching a video. Do you learn to draw by watching a video on how to draw? No. It takes practice and practice. (I use this example because I'm an artist). I am one of those persons that has to actually do the fight in order to learn it. Sure, I watch videos to get the basics, but you will still make mistakes. Watching a video is not the same as experiencing the fight.

Noone said, that just video is enough. Nothing beats actual exp, that's what all "learning parties" in PF are about. To learn by exp. It's also ok to try content with a friends or static, going into the fight without any knowledge about it and having fun. What's not fun, is a players, who join farm groups in PF without any experience - that's where they'll be called names and stuff.